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Posted: Thu May 31, 2007 5:14 pm
Sheradin Sweet [Sha] God and religion's main purposes: 1) to make suffering people feel that they have something to live for (heaven) 2) to justify corrupted actions by government and religious officials to control others 3) to comfort people because they are afraid of living in a world where everything can't be explained by god. 4) to justify war, murder, and enslavement As far as I'm concerned, the "good" parts are not good enough to justify the "bad" parts. Numbers two and four are largely due to the Established Church. Personal beliefs are fairly harmless. However, when throngs of people flock to the beck and call of an establishment that shares their beliefs, then we have a problem. Religion is nothing with personal belief only. If I personally believe in the god of Smookle, that god dies with me.
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Posted: Thu May 31, 2007 5:14 pm
[Sha] God and religion's main purposes: 1) to make suffering people feel that they have something to live for (heaven) 2) to justify corrupted actions by government and religious officials to control others 3) to comfort people because they are afraid of living in a world where everything can't be explained by god. 4) to justify war, murder, and enslavement As far as I'm concerned, the "good" parts are not good enough to justify the "bad" parts. I don't use my religion to justify anything bad. Bad things happen, and they always will. Personally on my political stance, I am liberal. I do NOT support the war at all, I think it was started for reasons that should not have caused it. (But that's a completely separate topic.) I do not use my religion to justify war, on second thought my religion does not support war. War is killing, no human has any right to take another humans life. Not all religions believe in "heaven." And, I am not afraid of living in a world where things can't be explained by god, because there are a hell of a lot of things on this Earth, or universe for that matter, that are completely unexplainable and probably always will be unexplainable. Believing in some sort of spiritual "being(s)" or God(s) do comfort me because I feel like there really is something out there and that there is something more to the Earth than material/tangible items. I most certainly do NOT use my religion to justify corrupt government officials. Humans are humans, some are just much much worse than others. As similar as religions may be, there will always be a vast amount of ever changing opinions.
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Posted: Thu May 31, 2007 5:20 pm
[Sha] Sheradin Sweet [Sha] God and religion's main purposes: 1) to make suffering people feel that they have something to live for (heaven) 2) to justify corrupted actions by government and religious officials to control others 3) to comfort people because they are afraid of living in a world where everything can't be explained by god. 4) to justify war, murder, and enslavement As far as I'm concerned, the "good" parts are not good enough to justify the "bad" parts. Numbers two and four are largely due to the Established Church. Personal beliefs are fairly harmless. However, when throngs of people flock to the beck and call of an establishment that shares their beliefs, then we have a problem. Religion is nothing with personal belief only. If I personally believe in the god of Smookle, that god dies with me. God; which is immutable timeless, spaceless, beyond our conception, the supernatural being conceived as the perfect and omnipotent and omniscient originator and ruler of the universe; etc. etc. Notice the word: timelessTimeless; dateless: unaffected by time; "few characters are so dateless as Hamlet"; "Helen's timeless beauty" If you die and you believe in the god "smookle" then you would not believe he/she/it dies with you, that would be an oxymoron. lol
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Posted: Thu May 31, 2007 9:07 pm
Purpose of God....easy way of explaining what we don't understand. Purpose of religion.....A quest to separate stupid people from intellegent people. The stupid allow themselves to be brainwashed by the clergy. The intellegent ask questions about the many contradictions that the Bible possesses.
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Posted: Thu May 31, 2007 10:03 pm
Nailah Femi [Sha] God and religion's main purposes: 1) to make suffering people feel that they have something to live for (heaven) 2) to justify corrupted actions by government and religious officials to control others 3) to comfort people because they are afraid of living in a world where everything can't be explained by god. 4) to justify war, murder, and enslavement As far as I'm concerned, the "good" parts are not good enough to justify the "bad" parts. 1) prove 2) prove 3) prove 4) prove
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Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2007 7:55 am
Religion is a simple and deep philosophical answer to all the things science can never answer. I see no need why science and religion clash, and in fact see them as two ways to do the same thing.
Many atheists claim that science disproves religion, but in fact, it just proves that people tend to interpret religion incorrectly. Remember, religion should not be about history, but philosophy. It should be the way you see the world, and how you behave in it, but not anything more or less. The only reason science and religion tend to clash is because people try putting one into the other's territory. To put it simple, atheism is closed minded and not really a great practice on it's own, and while religion is inherently open minded, it attracts closed minded people too easily. It seems that the only group that has it right anymore are the agnostics.
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Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2007 10:31 am
I am in the Religion of Roman Catholic. Personally, I think that many of the people in Christianity believe in God because they think that they will have a 'better life' and no worries what-so-ever. But, that is not true. Believing in God has its many good times and bad times, all balancing each other out to help strengthen our faith. Many Christians don't understand that, so once something bad happens, they ask, 'I believe in God, so why is this happening to me?', and they deny their faith.
Me? Well, I think that I believe in God because I want to become a better, and wiser person through all the things that had and are happening in my life.
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Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2007 12:50 pm
Religion is used my the masses as a mental crutch. Some people simply can't handle the pains of everyday life, ergo they find someone who can alleviate their stress and pain. People lie to themselves all of the time, it's really quite easy, I did it for years. Religiously zealous people simply tell themselves "My mom is a drug addict and my dad is a drunk, but I'll make it through because I have Jesus on my side." Why do you think depressive people are in such a hurry to convert? My dad didn't become a Christian until he literally was on the border of serious clinic depression. Why are people with cancer in such a hurry to convert? They want to find the cure, or they want to have stability after they die. Everyone uses a different mental crutch, everyone has one. Some people use religion, I use books, movies, stories and knowledge. It gives me my comfort. In closing religion is just like a safety blanket.
Oh, and I'm sorry if I offend anyone, I don't mean to at all.
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Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2007 1:12 pm
Clairmont Religion is used my the masses as a mental crutch. Some people simply can't handle the pains of everyday life, ergo they find someone who can alleviate their stress and pain. People lie to themselves all of the time, it's really quite easy, I did it for years. Religiously zealous people simply tell themselves "My mom is a drug addict and my dad is a drunk, but I'll make it through because I have Jesus on my side." Why do you think depressive people are in such a hurry to convert? My dad didn't become a Christian until he literally was on the border of serious clinic depression. Why are people with cancer in such a hurry to convert? They want to find the cure, or they want to have stability after they die. Everyone uses a different mental crutch, everyone has one. Some people use religion, I use books, movies, stories and knowledge. It gives me my comfort. In closing religion is just like a safety blanket. Oh, and I'm sorry if I offend anyone, I don't mean to at all. Even if there is no Deity or correct religion, isn't false hope still hope?
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Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2007 1:17 pm
Tammy-Seignfree Clairmont Religion is used my the masses as a mental crutch. Some people simply can't handle the pains of everyday life, ergo they find someone who can alleviate their stress and pain. People lie to themselves all of the time, it's really quite easy, I did it for years. Religiously zealous people simply tell themselves "My mom is a drug addict and my dad is a drunk, but I'll make it through because I have Jesus on my side." Why do you think depressive people are in such a hurry to convert? My dad didn't become a Christian until he literally was on the border of serious clinic depression. Why are people with cancer in such a hurry to convert? They want to find the cure, or they want to have stability after they die. Everyone uses a different mental crutch, everyone has one. Some people use religion, I use books, movies, stories and knowledge. It gives me my comfort. In closing religion is just like a safety blanket. Oh, and I'm sorry if I offend anyone, I don't mean to at all. Even if there is no Deity or correct religion, isn't false hope still hope? Absolutely! I believe that false hope, though within itself false, it is still valid. It gets us through the day, it does the job of normal hope. But isn't all hope just what we wish for the future, ergo the product of our minds?
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Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2007 1:23 pm
Clairmont Tammy-Seignfree Clairmont Religion is used my the masses as a mental crutch. Some people simply can't handle the pains of everyday life, ergo they find someone who can alleviate their stress and pain. People lie to themselves all of the time, it's really quite easy, I did it for years. Religiously zealous people simply tell themselves "My mom is a drug addict and my dad is a drunk, but I'll make it through because I have Jesus on my side." Why do you think depressive people are in such a hurry to convert? My dad didn't become a Christian until he literally was on the border of serious clinic depression. Why are people with cancer in such a hurry to convert? They want to find the cure, or they want to have stability after they die. Everyone uses a different mental crutch, everyone has one. Some people use religion, I use books, movies, stories and knowledge. It gives me my comfort. In closing religion is just like a safety blanket. Oh, and I'm sorry if I offend anyone, I don't mean to at all. Even if there is no Deity or correct religion, isn't false hope still hope? Absolutely! I believe that false hope, though within itself false, it is still valid. It gets us through the day, it does the job of normal hope. But isn't all hope just what we wish for the future, ergo the product of our minds? Well sometimes hope has a provable basis. If I am baking a cake, and I have made plenty of cakes before, I can validly hope that the cake will be good. However, if I have only made three cakes before, and they were disasters, and I have done nothing differently, then it would be false hope to hope the cake was good. Of course, there is an off chance that the cake will be good, and if trying is what I like, then that hope is still good to do, even if it has no foundry.
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Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2007 1:25 pm
Tammy-Seignfree Clairmont Tammy-Seignfree Clairmont Religion is used my the masses as a mental crutch. Some people simply can't handle the pains of everyday life, ergo they find someone who can alleviate their stress and pain. People lie to themselves all of the time, it's really quite easy, I did it for years. Religiously zealous people simply tell themselves "My mom is a drug addict and my dad is a drunk, but I'll make it through because I have Jesus on my side." Why do you think depressive people are in such a hurry to convert? My dad didn't become a Christian until he literally was on the border of serious clinic depression. Why are people with cancer in such a hurry to convert? They want to find the cure, or they want to have stability after they die. Everyone uses a different mental crutch, everyone has one. Some people use religion, I use books, movies, stories and knowledge. It gives me my comfort. In closing religion is just like a safety blanket. Oh, and I'm sorry if I offend anyone, I don't mean to at all. Even if there is no Deity or correct religion, isn't false hope still hope? Absolutely! I believe that false hope, though within itself false, it is still valid. It gets us through the day, it does the job of normal hope. But isn't all hope just what we wish for the future, ergo the product of our minds? Well sometimes hope has a provable basis. If I am baking a cake, and I have made plenty of cakes before, I can validly hope that the cake will be good. However, if I have only made three cakes before, and they were disasters, and I have done nothing differently, then it would be false hope to hope the cake was good. Of course, there is an off chance that the cake will be good, and if trying is what I like, then that hope is still good to do, even if it has no foundry. In my opinion: To hope is to desire something that may or may not happen.
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Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2007 1:40 pm
Clairmont Tammy-Seignfree Clairmont Tammy-Seignfree Clairmont Religion is used my the masses as a mental crutch. Some people simply can't handle the pains of everyday life, ergo they find someone who can alleviate their stress and pain. People lie to themselves all of the time, it's really quite easy, I did it for years. Religiously zealous people simply tell themselves "My mom is a drug addict and my dad is a drunk, but I'll make it through because I have Jesus on my side." Why do you think depressive people are in such a hurry to convert? My dad didn't become a Christian until he literally was on the border of serious clinic depression. Why are people with cancer in such a hurry to convert? They want to find the cure, or they want to have stability after they die. Everyone uses a different mental crutch, everyone has one. Some people use religion, I use books, movies, stories and knowledge. It gives me my comfort. In closing religion is just like a safety blanket. Oh, and I'm sorry if I offend anyone, I don't mean to at all. Even if there is no Deity or correct religion, isn't false hope still hope? Absolutely! I believe that false hope, though within itself false, it is still valid. It gets us through the day, it does the job of normal hope. But isn't all hope just what we wish for the future, ergo the product of our minds? Well sometimes hope has a provable basis. If I am baking a cake, and I have made plenty of cakes before, I can validly hope that the cake will be good. However, if I have only made three cakes before, and they were disasters, and I have done nothing differently, then it would be false hope to hope the cake was good. Of course, there is an off chance that the cake will be good, and if trying is what I like, then that hope is still good to do, even if it has no foundry. In my opinion: To hope is to desire something that may or may not happen. Yup, it is just sometimes hope has foundation, and sometimes, you ust gotta hope for the best!
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Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2007 2:33 pm
Tammy-Seignfree Clairmont Tammy-Seignfree Clairmont Tammy-Seignfree Clairmont Religion is used my the masses as a mental crutch. Some people simply can't handle the pains of everyday life, ergo they find someone who can alleviate their stress and pain. People lie to themselves all of the time, it's really quite easy, I did it for years. Religiously zealous people simply tell themselves "My mom is a drug addict and my dad is a drunk, but I'll make it through because I have Jesus on my side." Why do you think depressive people are in such a hurry to convert? My dad didn't become a Christian until he literally was on the border of serious clinic depression. Why are people with cancer in such a hurry to convert? They want to find the cure, or they want to have stability after they die. Everyone uses a different mental crutch, everyone has one. Some people use religion, I use books, movies, stories and knowledge. It gives me my comfort. In closing religion is just like a safety blanket. Oh, and I'm sorry if I offend anyone, I don't mean to at all. Even if there is no Deity or correct religion, isn't false hope still hope? Absolutely! I believe that false hope, though within itself false, it is still valid. It gets us through the day, it does the job of normal hope. But isn't all hope just what we wish for the future, ergo the product of our minds? Well sometimes hope has a provable basis. If I am baking a cake, and I have made plenty of cakes before, I can validly hope that the cake will be good. However, if I have only made three cakes before, and they were disasters, and I have done nothing differently, then it would be false hope to hope the cake was good. Of course, there is an off chance that the cake will be good, and if trying is what I like, then that hope is still good to do, even if it has no foundry. In my opinion: To hope is to desire something that may or may not happen. Yup, it is just sometimes hope has foundation, and sometimes, you ust gotta hope for the best! If you think and believe in life deeply everything has "probable cause". Hope is self-created though, that's all I'm saying.
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Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2007 7:52 pm
foxboy-14 their is no purpose, nobody "created" religion for a purpose, then it wouldnt be a religion it would be a CULT I agree with this........
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