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NonchalantConcern

PostPosted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 8:23 pm


Chaotic Souls
Theres one thing that I noticed isn't discussed in this censorship topic. Three, technically four, Very different forms of "Art/Photography" which seems to be rather messed up on an art site I'm on.

First off, I'm fine with seeing Nude pictures on the Anatonomy section because it is what it is, the form and structure of the human body, most of the joints are usualy blocked which make it harder for some artists to figure out just how the body bends.

Then theres your basic artowork that has naked bodies that show or don't show the various reproductive organs. Then again thats what the Mature content filter is for.

Then we get into the more serious stuff.

Artistic Nude, to me (and just to me for now), I think of artistic nude as not some of those silly fetish poses and pictures that are strewn across the dA favorites pages, but ones that have a nude body and then reveal/block it in an artistic way. This is one such example, as you can tell its a naked male form but its displayed in a very artistic way.

After that, you just have your normalpornogrophy and people just posting naked pictures of themself in the Artistic nude section when I, and several of my friends, think its just the "artists" way of getting attention, most of which with the female body. If you skim dA, you will find some of the most disgusting things on there, one of which was inflation which I hardly find artistic.

I know art is withen the eys of the beholder, but Deviantart needs to open its Male-mod eyes and see that they are a bunch of sexist..mods that think artistic nude, real artistic nude is not just for females.

Yes I know this is more of a rant, but I just wanted to put my say into this. Sorry if it is irrevelent.


I really like this post because it covers my rants on this topic too! good job! biggrin

I also have a deviantART account so I know precicely what you're talking about. But I'm constantly frustrated with what some of the idiots post there so I could rant for a rather long time.

I don't really have much to add here because I agree with everything you say.

But, I thought http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/8088747/ might interest you... it reminds me a lot of the photo you posted and I think it's beautiful
PostPosted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 8:28 pm


Hmm this may be a bit off topic.
And i'll update this post in a bit just for the thread.
I wonder if we should create an artist thread in the chatterbox sub forum.
Hmm.

Or some themes such as that.

Lotus Requiem


That One Halfling

Territorial Wolf

PostPosted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 8:28 pm


-*Bows*-
Atleast one person here knows what I'm dealing with. I once tried to look through the mind of those who end up on the "Todays Favorits" page, but alas I cracked under the pressure and perverted nature (then again I shouldn't be talking because of my obession with Yaoi.).

But seeing that more than just my friends agree that Artistic nude is something that isn't just pin ups makes me happy. I would talk more on the subject, but I should go for the night. School tomorrow and I need to look around the house for a picture I get to water colour.

P.S.: If any of you wish to take a gander at my horrible art, it's here.
PostPosted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 9:22 pm


NonchalantConcern
The Resurrection
NonchalantConcern
I don't believe that parents are using censorship as a babysitter...


Of course not. That job falls to TV, video games, teachers, and any member of society who isn't them.


Sadly, this is very true. Which brings up the topic... what should those people and influences censor... if anything at all?


Nothing, it's not their job to parent no matter how much parents try to force it on them. I have no kids of my own, mostly because at 19 it's not really the greatest time to have them, but I can't imagine raising one is a simple feat. So how can you expect someone to raise 20 or more each according to the whims and will of another possibly greatly contrasting with the rest? It's sheer lunacy and both inexcusable and intolerable from the parents. This particularly applies to video games and tv which the parent can easily control access to. Slightly less so to teachers simply because I do believe the parent has at least some right to determine what their child knows for at least a small portion of their life.

The Resurrection
Vice Captain


Fae Yin

Sparkly Genius

PostPosted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 9:53 pm


Chaotic Souls
-*Bows*-
Atleast one person here knows what I'm dealing with. I once tried to look through the mind of those who end up on the "Todays Favorits" page, but alas I cracked under the pressure and perverted nature (then again I shouldn't be talking because of my obession with Yaoi.).

But seeing that more than just my friends agree that Artistic nude is something that isn't just pin ups makes me happy. I would talk more on the subject, but I should go for the night. School tomorrow and I need to look around the house for a picture I get to water colour.

P.S.: If any of you wish to take a gander at my horrible art, it's here.


Join me to that list. I like nude art, also, and not for simple thrills. Hey, back somewhere in history we all danced around nude or almost nude. If our ancestors didn't go crazy at the sight of flesh back then, we "alleged" moderns can control our hormones to notice the intrinsic beauty there.

..and your art isn't bad. You said it yourself you do them fast. For fast art that's blessed good. Good lines. Good proportion.
PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2007 10:32 am


NonchalantConcern
Chaotic Souls
Theres one thing that I noticed isn't discussed in this censorship topic. Three, technically four, Very different forms of "Art/Photography" which seems to be rather messed up on an art site I'm on.

First off, I'm fine with seeing Nude pictures on the Anatonomy section because it is what it is, the form and structure of the human body, most of the joints are usualy blocked which make it harder for some artists to figure out just how the body bends.

Then theres your basic artowork that has naked bodies that show or don't show the various reproductive organs. Then again thats what the Mature content filter is for.

Then we get into the more serious stuff.

Artistic Nude, to me (and just to me for now), I think of artistic nude as not some of those silly fetish poses and pictures that are strewn across the dA favorites pages, but ones that have a nude body and then reveal/block it in an artistic way. This is one such example, as you can tell its a naked male form but its displayed in a very artistic way.

After that, you just have your normalpornogrophy and people just posting naked pictures of themself in the Artistic nude section when I, and several of my friends, think its just the "artists" way of getting attention, most of which with the female body. If you skim dA, you will find some of the most disgusting things on there, one of which was inflation which I hardly find artistic.

I know art is withen the eys of the beholder, but Deviantart needs to open its Male-mod eyes and see that they are a bunch of sexist..mods that think artistic nude, real artistic nude is not just for females.

Yes I know this is more of a rant, but I just wanted to put my say into this. Sorry if it is irrevelent.


I really like this post because it covers my rants on this topic too! good job! biggrin

I also have a deviantART account so I know precicely what you're talking about. But I'm constantly frustrated with what some of the idiots post there so I could rant for a rather long time.

I don't really have much to add here because I agree with everything you say.

But, I thought http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/8088747/ might interest you... it reminds me a lot of the photo you posted and I think it's beautiful


I completely understand the point here. I too, have a DA account and have noticed the pictures that some like to call 'artistic'. Attention whores are ridiculous. They are the reason we have censorship in the first place. They take advantage of it, and ultimately 'force' the censors to come in and shut the nudity down; not just their pornographic nudity, but even the artistic nudity that deserves to be called art.

Joscerelle


Astro6Zombie

PostPosted: Sat May 05, 2007 9:21 am


censorship has to be the worst idea i have ever herd. We have a freedom of speech, as in I can say what I want when I want. And to the parents who say" censorship is a good thing," I have this to say to you, If YOU don't want YOUR kids to see or hear these things then it's YOUR responsibility to not let them, not ours. And pulse your kids are going to hear about this stuff one way or another.
PostPosted: Sun May 06, 2007 11:48 am


Im having trouble picking out the topic- correct me if Im wrong-

But are we talking about kids and what should the public censor in regards
to them?

It just seems like we are a little loose on the topic. Before I decied what I want to say- I want to be clear on what we are talking about.

Silver Gargoyle


Lotus Requiem

PostPosted: Sun May 06, 2007 12:02 pm


Silver Gargoyle
Im having trouble picking out the topic- correct me if Im wrong-

But are we talking about kids and what should the public censor in regards
to them?

It just seems like we are a little loose on the topic. Before I decied what I want to say- I want to be clear on what we are talking about.


Right about now it seems to be a generalization for censorship.
So you could start off with cenorship in the home.
Then in the public.
Either way, opinions on this particular matter will still contribute to the OP and conversation.

Although I'm not voicing my opinion on this because it has already been said by other members. So saying it over and over again really isnt my thing.
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