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no offence.. but if the President of the US thought about everything nothing would have been this great!
thanks to him the people in Iraq started suffering... stare

You didn't sound mean, you were only expressing your opinion lol razz

i agree

And now stupid butt crack Bush is cutting funding and the veterans that are coming back aren't being taken care of. Makes me sick >.<

What makes me more mad is that the Americans, no offence, went to Iraq and fight and they call them HEROS!
What about the Iraqi people?!
they fight for their country and they are called TERRORISTS?! evil

Maybe 3 or 4 Americans I talk to said the same thing!
What do you hate from all this?!

Bush does make people suffer, but the prissy groups, sluts and assholes are caused by those people being insecure and that can't be directly linked to Bush or his administration in any way simply because all of that can be caused by a whole mess of things (Family situation, lack of love, shitty life, etc.).

On my part my hatred (I usually don't hate anything, but it's grown to that point) for religion and the government has grown greatly in many aspects.

As for the war I was against it from the start, and I still think that it was possible that 9/11 was planned from inside this country (If you look at the buildings, you'll notice that they implode, rather than explode.), and that it was done to give our leaders enough power to rage war (And a racist war at that.).

But with Iraq there was no reason for us to go in there, and on top of that it was done illegally (By U.N. standards) as well, there was no contract, nothing was signed, we just came, and conquered and that was it. We killed Saddam, but our leaders had no plan or even an idea on how to recreate a strong government in Iraq while the Iraqis are literally starting their own civil war.

Oh lord where to begin... First of all half the reason we are over there in the first place is because WE the American people cried out for action after 9/11, because we were attacked without provocation (Which is what a terrorist does). WE the people cried out for action. And since I notice in someone bring into question the way the towers fell as a plot by the government, I wish to simply point out one fact. If you look at the plans for the towers and the man who drew them you will notice that it was designed to implode and not explode. The reason being that NYC is a highly populated city as you well know; with the size of the towers and the density of the population it was designed to implode to save more lives then if the building exploded and collapsed onto other buildings. Now why Iraq you ask? Well there are several reasons.

To start with Saddam was our biggest threat at the time. It was known that he was harboring terrorists in his country. It was known that he was manufacturing chemical weapons and was acquiring plans for other WMD's. And it was known that he was testing these weapons on the groups of people who either disagreed with him or he just plain didn't like. We have not committed genocide, but it has been proven many times that Saddam was guilty of genocide on his own people. Now before you go screaming to me about how they never seem to have found these WMD's the answer is actually quite simple, they are in Sierra on ships. We can prove that they were moved because we have the satellite photos showing them being moved, and we can prove the location of them via the same means by the UN will not give us leave to go and check them (but enough on this tangent). Saddam was a man with no morals and the world is better of without him.

Now for the matter at hand, the war in Iraq. First of all, WE CAN NOT PULL OUT AT THIS TIME REGAURDLESS OF YOUR BELEIFS ON IF IT IS RIGHT OR WRONG THAT WE BE THERE IN THE FIRST PLACE.

The first reason is the fact that the country is in a state of civil war. yes no one likes killing but most countries have had or are having one. Do you know why that is? Because they see what happened with the US. If you do your research into your history you will find that we are the first successful civil war were the people rose against their government and won. To go one better we are also the first one to succeed in government after doing so. Everyone has seen what we have and they want it. So for those of you who wish you were not an American, shame on you for you disrespect those who died so that you could have the freedoms you enjoy, and shame again for the fact that you think so little of those who are fighting to keep you in those freedoms you enjoy. I could go one even better and say shame on you for spitting on the dreams of those who wish to have the freedoms you take for granted.

The second reason we can't leave is because as it has been stated already, the country would fall into anarchy. I challenge you to find troops that have served over in Iraq. I have the pleasure of living near a military base here in the US and have talked to several soldiers who have served on tours in Iraq and those leaving to serve tours later this year. The majority of what I hear are the same 2 statements. 1) Given 2 more years the country should be able to stand on its own with the government that we are ASSISTING to put in place. (2) Iraq has its hot spots, but the truth is that the news media makes it look 100 times worse over there then it really is. That is what I get from the troops I have spoken to.

And for the third and last reason I will state tonight is simply this. We can't take our troops back at this time because of our own people over here in the US, and I am NOT talking about the men and women in our government. I will once again point to the pages in our history books to a time not to long ago. That time is Vietnam. Like they are today the US people cried and demanded that we bring our troops back from Vietnam. They protested loud enough and long enough that the government finally agreed to bring them home; and do you know what happened? The people of our great nation cursed, jeered, beat, and spat on our soldiers. Again I ask if you know why? Because we did not win. We left before the job we set out to do was done, and so we did not win. That is the third reason I am going to put to you as to why we cannot just bring our troops home just yet. Because if we do the American people will see it as a loss, which is what it would be and our troops who returned home would be the ones people would take their anger out upon for losing. Yes, they would say the president failed (which again it would be, but remember WE the people wanted them back NOW), but the troops would take the brunt and front line abuse because we did not win the war in Iraq.

I am going to stop my argument here tonight because I'm really just to tired to go through and list out all the reasons why we are in this war. So I will end with this. Gandhi speaks sweet words of how all problems can be solved simply by talking. I agree that maybe true and I wish that I worked out that way more often. Sadly that requires something, that something is another party willing to talk, listen, and act as the talks agree. If you do some research (and Fahrenheit 9/11 is not research it is propaganda) you will find we have tried talking to both Saddam and the terrorists over in the middle east. Saddam talked some, listened, and acted contradictory to what he said and agreed to, this is proven many times over. And the terrorists will not talk or listen, all they have said is that the killing will stop when all the infidels are dead. (Infidels fyi are anyone that is not one of the terrorists in the middle east. If you are a terrorist outside the Middle East, even if your beliefs are exactly the same, you are simply a martyr because you will die for the cause because you are living outside the Middle East.) So as much as I would love to see things workout the way Gandhi said they should, the world is not ready to accept that way of thinking just yet so it will continue to fight. So I hope you all will actually have read all I have said here and that I will provided you something to think about and hopefully research so that you can make a good an honest opinion based the facts you have found yourself and not simply the half truths that the media and other groups will feed you so that you will be satisfied enough with what your are told. Go out and find truth and think for yourself, you maybe amazed at what you find.