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As usual, information gaining used simply as a tool of human exploitation...

I really don't know. neutral It was one of my mom's books... As far as Ramtha commanding an army and all this stuff, I've only heard that on Wikipedia. I'm looking all over the place and all the other information is about Ramtha being channeled through J.Z. Knight...

Even if you type the name in Google, the "school of enlightenment" comes up. Don't get me wrong, I would never pay this lady money to channel information. That part of her channeling is indeed questionable. I was just bringing up that the teachings seemed to have some value, and I brought up the discussion of channeling with that idea. This isn't about proving people right or wrong. confused

http://www.unexplainedstuff.com/Places-of-Mystery-and-Power/Lemuria-and-Mu.html

Man what a nuisance the net is completely unreliable when you are looking for information such as this.

And the majority of information I found doesn't even match up they are all theories.

And some of the most idiotic sounding ideals for Lemuria.
I think i'm going to have to use some of my other sources rather than relying on random sites

No worries all I ask is that if something that I say concerns you feel free to mention it rofl Matter of fact that goes to everyone else.

I have so many thoughts in my mind it turns out to be chaotic from time to time. rofl

Naw, I just need to grow up. xp

Oh, I have that problem very often. I'm stuck on science right now. Physics. Bam! I want to take physics in college! But my math grades are terrible!

Ramtha is the name of an entity that JZ Knight claims to channel. According to Knight, Ramtha was a Lemurian warrior who raised an army and fought against the tyrants of the times, the Atlantians, over 35,000 years ago. Ramtha led an army of over 2.5 million across the continents, conquering 2/3 of the known world, which was going through cataclysmic geological changes. According to his teachings, he led the army for ten years until he was betrayed and almost killed.

Ramtha spent the next seven years in isolation recovering and observing nature, among other things. He later mastered many skills, including foresight and out-of-body experiences, until he led his army to the Indus river when aged in his late seventies. Ramtha taught them everything he knew for 120 days, before he ascended before them. He made a promise to his army that he would come back to teach them again, and so he appeared to JZ Knight in 1977 to re-educate the "forgotten gods", those who had forgotten themselves and their divinity.
Ramtha's Teachings
Ramtha is the central figure (the "master teacher") of Ramtha's School of Enlightenment (RSE), a school started by JZ Knight in 1987 in Yelm, Washington. Classes (or "dialogues") had been held around the world for the previous ten years. A central theme of Ramtha's teachings involve the internalization of divinity (God is in Us, You are God, Behold God, etc.). Ramtha is described as having brought his knowledge to many ancient civilizations in the world such as the Ancient Egyptians. The website also suggests that traces of the lineage of the original teachings and philosophies he taught 35,000 years ago have appeared throughout history in the schools of philosophers like Socrates and Plato, religions like Hinduism, and the works of great minds such as Leonardo da Vinci and Michelangelo.In Ramtha's system of thought, the material world - the densest plane of existence - and the physical body are never regarded as evil, undesirable, or intrinsically bad. A dualistic interpretation of reality typically found in the gnostic traditions - emphasizing the struggle between good and evil, good and bad, light and darkness, sin and righteousness - is intrinsically excluded in Ramtha's system of thought. What becomes an undesirable condition is to remain in a state of ignorance or denial as to our true nature and destiny.

The four cornerstones of Ramtha's philosophy are:
* The Statement, "You are God"
* The mandate to Make Known the Unknown
* The concept that Consciousness and Energy Creates the nature of Reality
* The challenge to Conquer Yourself
Controversy
Court cases
J.Z. Knight has been involved in several court disputes, some personal (her divorce from Jeff Knight) and others business related, for example, one involving the dissemination of material containing the copyrighted Ramtha. [1] Another in Austria, involved a Berlin woman who also claimed to channel Ramtha. The Austrian Supreme court decided that JZ Knight was the only person with the sole trademark and copyright license for the name Ramtha and its associated teachings.[2]

Skeptics

There are many skeptics of Ramtha and JZ Knight's channeling abilities.

Most books regarding Ramtha and RSE come from JZK Publishing, one of the several companies started by JZ Knight. Other books somewhat sympathetic to Ramtha like Finding Enlightenment: Ramtha's School of Ancient Wisdom (See Literature section) have ties to RSE in other ways. J. Gordon Melton, the author of Finding Enlightenment, testified for J.Z. Knight in a 1992 court case against her former husband Jeffrey Knight.

Other skeptics point to Ramtha's story as proof that he does not exist. Ramtha claims to come from the continent of Lemuria and to have conquered Atlantis (what he terms as "Atlatia", which was only one of several major civilizations at his time he claims). The existence of either location is dubious.

James Randi, a famous skeptic, criticised J.Z. Knight for charging people $700 to attend a retreat on how to become rich and, tongue-in-cheek, suggested that the advice was likely on how to fake channelling [3].
Film
The movie What the #$*! Do We Know!? is also a major source of controversy involving Ramtha and a number of scientists. Critics of the film describe it as a pseudoscientific fiction and not the documentary and scientifically based film it projects. JZ Knight appears briefly "channelling" Ramtha in the film to reinforce the apparent connections between ancient spiritual beliefs and new discoveries in quantum physics. The three directors of the film are admitted students of RSE.
Literature
Ramtha was one of the more popular channelled entities during the New Age explosion of the 80's in America and was figured in Shirley MacLaine's book Dancing in the Light, amongst others.The book Finding Enlightenment: Ramtha's School of Ancient Wisdom (J. Gordon Melton, 1998, ISBN 1-885223-61-7) describes Ramtha's Teachings and RSE. The book was written after several years study of the school, its environs and the school's body of teachings. It was presented as a balanced and accurate research by a religious scholar, but this claim has come under attack by others as biased and incomplete.[4] There have been over 120 books and 40 DVDs released by RSE, JZK Inc. or independently in the past twenty-five years [5].

Lemuria (continent)

Lemuria is the name of a hypothetical "lost land" variously located in the Indian and Pacific Oceans. Its 19th century origins lie in attempts to account for discontinuities in biogeography. Lemuria has been rendered superfluous by modern understanding of plate tectonics.

Though Lemuria has passed out of the realm of science, it has been adopted by occult writers, as well as some Tamil people of India. Accounts of Lemuria differ according to the requirements of their contexts. However, all share a common belief that the continent existed in ancient times but sank beneath the ocean as a result of geological change, often cataclysmic.

Geologists today regard sunken continents as physical impossibilities, given the isostatic equilibrium of continental plates floating on the thermoplastic mantle.[citation needed]


Scientific origins
Though the living modern lemurs are only found in Madagascar and several surrounding islands, the biogeography of extinct lemurs extending from Pakistan to Malaysia inspired the name Lemuria, which was coined in 1864 by the geologist Philip Sclater in an article "The Mammals of Madagascar" in The Quarterly Journal of Science. Puzzled by the presence of fossil lemurs in both Madagascar and India, but not in Africa nor the Middle East, Sclater proposed that Madagascar and India had once been part of a larger continent, which he named Lemuria for its lemurs.

Sclater's theory was hardly unusual for his time. The acceptance of Darwinism led scientists to seek to trace the diffusion of species from their points of evolutionary origin; prior to the acceptance of continental drift, biologists frequently postulated submerged land masses in order to account for populations of land-based species now separated by barriers of water. Similarly, geologists tried to account for striking resemblances of rock formations on different continents. The first systematic attempt was made by Melchior Neumayr in his book Erdgeschichte in 1887. Many hypothetical submerged land bridges and continents were proposed during the 19th century, in order to account for the present distribution of species.

As Lemuria gained some acceptance within the scientific community, it began to appear in the works of other scholars. Ernst Haeckel, a German Darwinian taxonomist, proposed Lemuria as an explanation for the absence of "missing link" fossil records. According to another source, Haeckel put forward this thesis prior to Sclater (but without using the name 'Lemuria'). [1] Locating the origins of the human species on this lost continent, he claimed the fossil record could not be found because it had sunk beneath the sea.

Other scientists hypothesized that Lemuria had extended across parts of the Pacific oceans, explaining distributions of species across Asia and the Americas.

The Lemuria theory disappeared completely from practical consideration, after the theory of plate tectonics and continental drift were accepted by the larger scientific community.

In 1999, drilling by the JOIDES Resolution research vessel in the Indian Ocean discovered evidence [1] that a continent about a third of the size of Australia sank about 20 million years ago. Samples showed pollen and fragments of wood in a 90 million year old sediment. This might lead one to expect similarity of dinosaur fossil evidence and will help to understand the breakup of the Indian and Australian land masses; it does not support the concept of Lemuria as a land bridge for mammals.


Madame Blavatsky's Lemuria
Lemuria entered the lexicon of the Occult through the works of Madame Blavatsky, who claimed in the 1880s to have been shown an ancient, pre-Atlantean Book of Dzyan by the Mahatmas. Within Blavatsky's complex cosmology, which includes seven "Root Races", Lemuria was occupied by the "Third Root Race", which was about seven foot tall, sexually hermaphroditic, egg-laying, mentally undeveloped and spiritually more pure than the following "Root Races". Before the coming of the Lemurians, the second "Root Race" is said to have dwelled in Hyperborea.

After the subsequent creation of mammals, Mme. Blavatsky revealed to her readers, some Lemurians turned to bestiality. The gods, aghast at the behavior of these "mindless" men, sank Lemuria into the ocean and created a "Fourth Root Race"—endowed with intellect—on Atlantis.

According to L. Sprague de Camp, Mme. Blavatsky was influenced by other writers on the theme of Lost Continents, notably Ignatius L. Donnelly, a cult leader named Thomas Lake Harris and the french writer Louis Jacolliot.

Hehe' that sure is alot to read have fun with that rofl

I never went throught wikipedia to find those