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Warrior of Metal
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 7:32 pm


"a band is the dysfunctional family you choose."
-Guitar Hero 2
PostPosted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 12:02 am


Exactly. wink

Too bad Thomenn left though.. I haven't heard the new BG after his departure but I honestly don't think the band can be all the same (I'm a drummer myself so I can tell if it's a different player rolleyes ) because Thomen's drumming made it quite distinctive - and if the new drummer even tries to copy the drumming style, it'd make it even worse for me!

Beixuelong


number_17
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 2:29 am


Beixuelong
Exactly. wink

Too bad Thomenn left though.. I haven't heard the new BG after his departure but I honestly don't think the band can be all the same (I'm a drummer myself so I can tell if it's a different player rolleyes ) because Thomen's drumming made it quite distinctive - and if the new drummer even tries to copy the drumming style, it'd make it even worse for me!
yes it does confused

if you take a new drummer in a band he need to use him own style on new songs. old songs might remain the same, unless it had some little solo's in them. 3nodding
PostPosted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 6:16 pm


Beixuelong
Exactly. wink

Too bad Thomenn left though.. I haven't heard the new BG after his departure but I honestly don't think the band can be all the same (I'm a drummer myself so I can tell if it's a different player rolleyes ) because Thomen's drumming made it quite distinctive - and if the new drummer even tries to copy the drumming style, it'd make it even worse for me!


I wouldn't say he tries to copy Thomenn's style, but there is a bit of influence. And like I've stanted, ATITM, is probably one of their best albums yet.

Shade in the Shadow
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The Dadalorian

PostPosted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 7:28 pm


what the hell?
blind guardian is power metal, not progressive, they're closer to folk metal than prog
PostPosted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 9:20 pm


Chaos A.D.
what the hell?
blind guardian is power metal, not progressive, they're closer to folk metal than prog

Read the first page please, We've gone through this discussion. They ARE power metal, but have Progressive influences, and have had some progressive albums. As i have said, progressive is not only a genre, but a description of a sound, like Maiden has some progressive sounds in some songs.

Warrior of Metal
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Beixuelong

PostPosted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 10:52 pm


The whole discussion over what is progressive and what is not is sometimes silly. I don't think BG is progressive metal but then I don't think Ayreon (though many people say its proge) is either. What makes a band progressive anyway?

Having a nice 7/8 from time to time?

I mean, are bands like Pagan's Mind, Symphony X, or Shaman really proge - even if they say they are?.. I call them powermetal and that's it. They may have progressive elements to their music but I wouldn't call them progressive metal as such.

Well anyway, yeah.. I wouldn't call BG proge but I don't call them powermetal either because their style is quite distinctive from other powermetal bands. Don't really know what to call but just BG. rolleyes
PostPosted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 2:06 am


progressive/power metal?

calling bands progressive is very hard, harder then saying a band i power of death..
most of the time the experimental or technical stuff is progressive or has progressive elements.

number_17
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Warrior of Metal
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 6:31 am


Yeah, that's what I say... If someone has a progressive sound such as Blind Guardian, then they are worth mentioning in this guild. And a lot of Power Metal bands have progressive sounds and elements, so why not mention them here. And Blind Guardian is definitely experimental. No one has their sound, and they are totally original. It is hard to classify them, so lets not.
PostPosted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 5:15 pm


Angel of Metal
Yeah, that's what I say... If someone has a progressive sound such as Blind Guardian, then they are worth mentioning in this guild. And a lot of Power Metal bands have progressive sounds and elements, so why not mention them here. And Blind Guardian is definitely experimental. No one has their sound, and they are totally original. It is hard to classify them, so lets not.


Exactly. whee

If I came out wrong, let me clarify that I didn't mean bands like BG or power metal bands with progressive elements shouldn't be mentioned in this guild. If we were to take them out and stick with bands "purely progressive" we would be left with a small number of bands to discuss.

And yeah, discussion as to "what is proge" is as silly and trivial as "what is true evil black metal and what is not". rolleyes

In total, I wouldn't even say "progressive metal" is really a genre of music. I mean, DT and POS are both "progressive metal" but their sound is totally different as is their approach. Progressive metal can fall under basically any major genre in metal. Thus you have progressive power metal, progressive death metal, etc.

And yeah, BG is quite unique in their field of music, better not be too exact on finding a definition to their style. It's BG to me and everyone who knows BG knows what I'm talking about, enough for me. wink

Beixuelong


Warrior of Metal
Crew

PostPosted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 7:55 pm


My thoughts exactly, you just found better words... gonk

As to Chaos A.D, the only reason I didn't totally flame him is because I'm a mod here and I think mods should follow rules... I wasn't happy, actually I was pissed... I think I was polite and explanatory. I would ussually put something to the effect of "Read the first F***ing page dumb***! If you can't figure that out, then go stick your head in a F***ing fire!" but I have moved past that, and am feeling very kind lately... I should stop, it entertains me to type like that. I know it's wrong, but it is sooooo fun. I'm actually the "Official" Flamer in my friend's shop. Quite an honor really... Not that I'm mad at him, I'm just saying that I'm past the whole flaming randomly thing, I hold nothing against him. Anyone who posts in this guild rocks.
PostPosted: Fri Feb 09, 2007 3:48 pm


they're still consider power metal, my point still stands that they're power metal.
and a lot of bands have progressive influences
firewind is more prog than they are
but yes i see the point you're making.
and i wasn't saying they're not...it more of a question.

The Dadalorian


Warrior of Metal
Crew

PostPosted: Fri Feb 09, 2007 9:25 pm


Oh, of course. I know they are Power metal. Of course. I just don't like the "What the Hell" part. But I see where you are coming from, they are definitely one of the Best Power Metal bands out there.
PostPosted: Fri Feb 09, 2007 9:26 pm


Angel of Metal
Oh, of course. I know they are Power metal. Of course. I just don't like the "What the Hell" part. But I see where you are coming from, they are definitely one of the Best Power Metal bands out there.
hah, gald we could fix this without any chairs flying. is just sparked the what the hell in my mind cause i didn't really think about them having prog traits in them

The Dadalorian


Warrior of Metal
Crew

PostPosted: Sat Feb 10, 2007 7:30 am


Wanna throw some random chairs for fun still? I like chairs flying! xp
I was just pointing out the fact that in public forums (Which I never visit anymore) I would have flamed, but I don't do that anymore.
*Throws chair at wall*
YAY!
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