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OMG a pirates life for me
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 Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 1:00 pm
Well, you have more one-on-one time with your mom or dad (which ever teaches you)
because there is not twenty-eight people in your class!
Which, has its advantages.
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Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 3:49 pm
I think the advantage that homeschooling has over a public education is the mindset of the student.
I was homeschooled through high school and I consider myself a self-motivated, self-directed learner even now, after I've completed my University education.
Yesterday I was talking to a young friend of mine who just started the 5th grade at a public school in town. She brags a lot about her test scores, the books she's reading and her grades - and she has bragging rights because she's doing really well. The trouble is the way she thinks she knows the things she knows. She thinks she's smart (which she well may be) but she thinks that others made her smart, not herself.
I asked her how she knows the things she knows. She pointed to her mom. Okay, her mom teaches her a lot of stuff. "Genes," she says "I write stuff on them." as she points to her jeans. "At school I got an A in science." Okay, she does well on her school assignments. "I'm just smart."
She doesn't take an active role in her own education because she doesn't have to. The system of mass education is based on test scores and grades. She's done well in those so she's not going to do anything else. Even if she were in a GATE program or something like that, she still wouldn't get that SHE'S the one doing the learning. It's a missed opportunity in empowerment that will undermine her later in life.
That's one plus I can see to homeschooling or schools of alternative methods such as Montessori. Being able to take responsibility and to develop a love of learning is the most important gift a child can have. And it doesn't come from genetics.
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Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 11:49 am
Jaithien "the homeschoolers are ten time smarter then public schoolers." attitude. homeschooling is wonderful. its a great way to learn, but its no garunetee of superior intelect. sure we got the sterotype that homeschoolers don't have friends, or that they will be dumb because their parents do not often carry a teaching degree, but is fighting a sterotype with another stero type really the answer? the logic of it fails. first off a parent may have been educated by the state. this means we would be completly incompetent to teach our children. thus making it hard for our kids to learn at all. second, some of the world smartest people including stephan hawkings went to school public or private. why then if homeschoolers are ten times smarter then anyone that went to school are they not rich and famous? sorry, but i seen this crop up in homeschooling debates and it really makes me mad. While I personally think that the majority of homeschooled kids are smarter and better adjusted to handle what lifes going to throw at them, I do think also that it depends on the person thats learning. If they're the type to want to learn, they will. If not, they'll get scant results. My oldest son would fall into this catagory as he has no desire to learn from a book regardless of whoes teaching him. My other three kids would fall into this catagory too in that they don't like to study but, they were willing to do what was required so they could gain what would benifit them in the end...a GED and tech school. I could accept that. What bothers me is everytime something goes wrong the media focuses on the homeschooling issue. As if things bad things never happen in public schools. That really makes me angry.
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Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 3:13 pm
or perhaps in S L Y T H E R I N ////////////
_________________♥__________________
//////////you'll make your R E A L friends
Hello, I am not actually homeschooled, but a close friend of mine is, so I was
just looking around to see what it was like - I don't think I would ever do it,
myself, I lack the motivation after all the years going to a proper school, [and
I do love taking certain electives], but I might end up doing it during college
as I am getting a PhD, and that will probably take me six or seven years.
Anyway, I just wanted to throw something into the argument: I believe intelligence
is something that you have or you don't, whether you were brought up in a
public school, at home, or in the most expensive English/Japanese private
school that is currently in existence. However, I think that perhaps the personalized
teaching that is provided through homeschooling may give a student a greater
chance, and generally more time, to learn something, whether they are smart
or not. Personally, I have a father who is a higher up in Cisco Systems and
graduated in Engineering at Oxford University, but he still sent me to a New
York public school. I am currently ranked third in my class, have some of the
highest AP scores out of the rest of my school (and we do quite well on them)
and I have already been accepted into University of British Columbia, one of
the best schools in the world (according to a recent "Top 40" chart), and I haven't
even taken my SAT I or ACT yet. I think, if I had been raised on homeschooling,
I would have been able to specialize earlier in what it is I love, but would have
also missed out on certain courses that I "just took for fun" or more artistic courses
(after all, I think my parents would have been annoyed if I asked them to buy me
mounds of clay, jars of glaze, and a two ton oven so I could take a half-year
course). In the favor of homeschooled kids: you are forced to read, I know for a
fact that absolutely NOBODY in my school, sans the people who actually like to
read, will even touch a book with that intention in mind. This includes textbooks.
I myself am a book junkie, a Borders gift card is one of the sexiest things I have
ever gotten for Christmas, but it pains me when we're in class and somebody
has to stop reading to ask how you pronounce "condescend".
Personally, I just praise whatever deities may exist for AP classes, it keeps me sane.
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Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2007 8:24 pm
My son is like any other human being; he has strengths and weaknesses like everyone. I get tired of hearing, "Oh you must be so smart," and even more tired of people asking if he's interested in the spelling bees. I've also come to the conclusion that it's unavoidable. People will always make assumptions, though if someone is truly obnoxious about it, I will turn their comments back on them by asking if they believe schooled children are stupid. It usually shuts people up quickly.
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Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 5:37 am
Kids who learn in a free-form, self-motivated way will tend to be "smarter" than others. Most public schools are on the opposite end of the spectrum from free-form or self-motivated. They teach children that what you care about is not important. If you're taught to dismiss every one of your thoughts as unimportant, you won't be educated.
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Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 5:42 am
OMG a pirates life for me Well, you have more one-on-one time with your mom or dad (which ever teaches you) because there is not twenty-eight people in your class! Which, has its advantages. Not all home-schoolers do that. My parents didn't help me with anything. My mom helps my brother sometimes, because he needs more "motivation" than I do, and because he struggles with algebra. I help him with algebra sometimes, too. Our family is really quite ... splintered. Or something. We aren't much of a "family" anymore.
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Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 3:28 pm
Mistress Ophiucha Hello, I am not actually homeschooled, but a close friend of mine is, so I was just looking around to see what it was like - I don't think I would ever do it, myself, I lack the motivation after all the years going to a proper school, [and I do love taking certain electives], but I might end up doing it during college as I am getting a PhD, and that will probably take me six or seven years. Anyway, I just wanted to throw something into the argument: I believe intelligence is something that you have or you don't, whether you were brought up in a public school, at home, or in the most expensive English/Japanese private school that is currently in existence. However, I think that perhaps the personalized teaching that is provided through homeschooling may give a student a greater chance, and generally more time, to learn something, whether they are smart or not. Personally, I have a father who is a higher up in Cisco Systems and graduated in Engineering at Oxford University, but he still sent me to a New York public school. I am currently ranked third in my class, have some of the highest AP scores out of the rest of my school (and we do quite well on them) and I have already been accepted into University of British Columbia, one of the best schools in the world (according to a recent "Top 40" chart), and I haven't even taken my SAT I or ACT yet. I think, if I had been raised on homeschooling, I would have been able to specialize earlier in what it is I love, but would have also missed out on certain courses that I "just took for fun" or more artistic courses (after all, I think my parents would have been annoyed if I asked them to buy me mounds of clay, jars of glaze, and a two ton oven so I could take a half-year course). In the favor of homeschooled kids: you are forced to read, I know for a fact that absolutely NOBODY in my school, sans the people who actually like to read, will even touch a book with that intention in mind. This includes textbooks. I myself am a book junkie, a Borders gift card is one of the sexiest things I have ever gotten for Christmas, but it pains me when we're in class and somebody has to stop reading to ask how you pronounce "condescend". Personally, I just praise whatever deities may exist for AP classes, it keeps me sane. Art is one of the things I really indulged my kids in while I was homeschooling them. I think it depends on how far a parent is willing to go in indulging their kids interests. And I have to agree with you...the best gift I could ever get would be a Borders gift card! heart I can seriously drop some money in that place. 3nodding
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Posted: Sat May 24, 2008 12:53 am
I think it depends on the child, the parents, and the school. If the parents aren't smart, the kid won't be able to learn very well. And if the child doesn't want to learn, there's nothing you can do about that except try to motivate him more. I think homeschoolers are generally smarter than kids in public school because 1. A lot of homeschooled kids are pulled out of school because they're smart in the first place and public school isn't challenging enough or 2. because for a lot of people, wouldn't it be easier to learn working 1-on-1 with your teacher instead of having to share with 25 other kids? You certainly get more help that way.
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Posted: Sat May 24, 2008 12:55 am
And I can't speak for everybody, but in general I'm smarter than my publically schooled friends, and many other homeschoolers I know are smarter than a lot of public school kids I know.
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Posted: Sun Aug 02, 2009 4:31 pm
Yeah, it's obviously a stereotype but there is some truth to it... We tend to score higher in testing. I don't know why but homeschoolers seem to be better educated. Me and my homeschool friends tend to confuse public schoolers by using "big words" or making references to classic literature. My best guess is the kinds of people who bother to homeschool care enough to make sure their kids actually learn the material. This is of course not always true, I'm 2 grades behind in math. :'P
But it's not always because homeschoolers get one-on-one attention, I haven't had a one-on-one class in years. I tend to use online classes, private tutored classes, etc...
[BTW, both my parents were public schoolers. Just very high scoring public schoolers. >w<]
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