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Saiyan-Cetra Kid

PostPosted: Sun Feb 25, 2007 1:11 pm


you know truthfully vivi's my favorite
but you cant compare mages
because they're all the same in the end
PostPosted: Thu Mar 01, 2007 3:42 pm


I disagree you can an often do compare mages. In 9 ultima is not a useable magic for vivi in each game they revamped the magic systems here and their. but besides simple gameplay the character development can make any one of the characters lovable or hateable. Vivi as a character was a stroke if genius i love him so much his depth and the level of tie in to his own self discovery story that unfolded as the main story evolved got me hooked on the little golem right away...also i think he's immortal. All the others had very short life spans and a simplicity to their minds. He didn't share any of that with his fellow golems. I think he was a brilliant screw up. Anybody else's thoughts on that?

Gentleman Mouse
Vice Captain


Saiyan-Cetra Kid

PostPosted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 7:38 pm


are you the devil?
PostPosted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 8:36 pm


Well that would be telling, now wouldn’t it?

Gentleman Mouse
Vice Captain


colin mocherie
Crew

Generous Gawker

PostPosted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 9:32 am


Brad Sherwood
are you the devil?

Shut up Sebastian
PostPosted: Sun Mar 11, 2007 9:24 pm


Brad Sherwood Wrote:
are you the devil?

colin mocherie wrote:
Shut up Sebastian

you rock colin mocherie

360skates


Gentleman Mouse
Vice Captain

PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 7:25 am


So, about my theory on Vivi? Does anyone have an opinion?
PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 3:34 pm


Gentleman Mouse
So, about my theory on Vivi? Does anyone have an opinion?
they could have made him a stronger fighter

colin mocherie
Crew

Generous Gawker


Gentleman Mouse
Vice Captain

PostPosted: Fri Mar 16, 2007 4:19 pm


I actually meant this theory: i think he's immortal. All the other golems had very short life spans and a simplicity to their minds. He didn't share any of that with his fellow golems. I think he was a brilliant screw up. Anybody else's thoughts on that?
PostPosted: Sat Mar 17, 2007 9:39 am


Gentleman Mouse
I actually meant this theory: i think he's immortal. All the other golems had very short life spans and a simplicity to their minds. He didn't share any of that with his fellow golems. I think he was a brilliant screw up. Anybody else's thoughts on that?

nothing to say against that

colin mocherie
Crew

Generous Gawker


Gentleman Mouse
Vice Captain

PostPosted: Sat Mar 17, 2007 9:47 am


well thats ok. love the guild colin!
PostPosted: Sat Mar 17, 2007 10:05 am


thank you.

colin mocherie
Crew

Generous Gawker


360skates

PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 6:20 pm


hey i thank that Vivi is not a screw up just a really good prototype, and i do love this guild Colin
PostPosted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 6:41 pm


Gentleman Mouse
I actually meant this theory: i think he's immortal. All the other golems had very short life spans and a simplicity to their minds. He didn't share any of that with his fellow golems. I think he was a brilliant screw up. Anybody else's thoughts on that?
Vivi wasn't articulate and verbose. I mean hell he grew up with a Qu. There is no real indication of his smarts. Personally, I like the idea that Vivi dies. Now, now, before you start lighting torches and grabbing your pitchforks, hear me out.

Vivi is told pretty bluntly that he is gonna die. He thinks for a bit and comes to the resolution that he isn't going to give up. He is going to stop the cycle before more of his friends gets hurt. He doesn't b***h and moan about wanting to live longer, he realizes that he is working with the greater good and he takes comfort in that.

Besides, him and Quina have babies at the end. So it's not like that is the end of the Black Mages.

dementedfellow


Gentleman Mouse
Vice Captain

PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 7:29 am


Im lighting my pitchforks! mrgreen no i kid. i see where you are coming from however i disagree about his intelligence level. Simply because his speech pattern didn’t come out of a Harvard dictionary does not hint at a degradation of his intelligence. Think back on the mages in the black mage village. They were only one step away from being babies. They built that village and behaved as they did because they were mimicking what they were told was normal. Vivi had a true and real concept of self. Secondly he is not bluntly told he is going to die he is told By the village "Elder" that since he is a golem like them he probably will die as well this however was no guarantee that he would. The others were full models built as tools of war disposable and replaceable. He was a prototype with an ability to evolve like zidane. Who i might add had the potential for divine immortality himself. So the question of immortality being a possibility is not necessarily so far fetched. Also i know he had children if you look in the "Final fantasy role play" forum i actually touched on that subject. Again this does not necessarily negate his possibility for being an immortal. As for vivi being raised by qu...Let me through this at you if you are a normal child raised by a mentally handicapped does that make you mentally handicapped? No. But then again that is a question of nature versus nurture. Now here is another point think of what the other black mages pre set life time was then track vivis life span...it is possible i believe, since his age is known and you can see he is no ordinary Soul dreg golem his incredible life span alone sets him apart. Then the very fact that he is shown to have kids. All the other golems were manufactured. He is capable of reproduction. Setting him as having a gender! Also at the end with his children its obviously a time jump. Think of his age at the time of game play far too young to be a father. So this shows anatomical maturity. He has true physical substance unlike the evidence shown of his other golem kin They are little more than soul energy based automatons with some mutations of child level intellect given the nature of the base material of their construction this is understandable. As i said i think that during the testing and developmental stage vivi was an unforeseen side effect of their monkeying around with the very nature of souls.
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