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Captain_Theoretical

PostPosted: Sun Sep 10, 2006 8:44 pm


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1 question .. If I were now to convert myself into being a Christian, how will I be saved? hm..


It's not enough to just say you believe in God, you actually have to believe in God.

And once you believe in God, you'd probably believe He has forgiven your sins and you are born again and whatnot, so that's how you'd be saved I expect. sweatdrop
PostPosted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 2:44 pm


Captain_Theoretical
Quote:
1 question .. If I were now to convert myself into being a Christian, how will I be saved? hm..


It's not enough to just say you believe in God, you actually have to believe in God.

And once you believe in God, you'd probably believe He has forgiven your sins and you are born again and whatnot, so that's how you'd be saved I expect. sweatdrop

rolleyes Too many sins to be forgiven..

Sein-mit-Hasse


ioioouiouiouio

PostPosted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 3:15 pm


ChainedFury
rolleyes Too many sins to be forgiven..

Impossible. There's only one unforgiveable sin and we're not entirely sure exactly what it really is.
PostPosted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 4:06 pm


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ChainedFury
rolleyes Too many sins to be forgiven..

Impossible. There's only one unforgiveable sin and we're not entirely sure exactly what it really is.

Are you sure? surprised

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thejesusfreak

PostPosted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 6:01 pm


ChainedFury
Cometh The Inquisitor
ChainedFury
rolleyes Too many sins to be forgiven..

Impossible. There's only one unforgiveable sin and we're not entirely sure exactly what it really is.

Are you sure? surprised
Yes, I'm sure, I've done alot of wrong things in my life, even after I actually became a Christian (I was raised in a Christian family) and God still forgave me and still helped me.
PostPosted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 6:14 pm


Dr. Kool
Imotoku, new scientific advances have been made since the bible was written such as the discovery of evolution. Now, I note that you believe in evolution, but there is no mention of anything like that in the bible. Next I say that as a result, a literal interpritation of the bible can not be logical. God may still exist, but that literal definition is nay impossible.

Okay, back to whatever is actually happening. Jesus was a Jew. He a Jewish carpenter. Judaism has been aroudn a really long time. So that last point in your post is obsolite. Alright, I'm don't being mean to you. Bye.
First the advances I was talking about were latest advances some that even athiests have to admit are true. None of them are biblical scientifical advances. Here is one....

The universe is so fine tuned that it is impossible to exist without God. It literally exceeds the chance of it happeneing in the universe. The universe is so fine tuned that even athiestic scientists say that some things are so down to the very atom it is not comprehendable by humans. It would be like going into space and throwing a dart randomly at the Earth and hitting a bullseye that is a trillionth of a trillionth of an inch. That is smaller than the nucleus of an atom.

Second, I am not sure if you understood what I posted. sweatdrop

Third, I find it very logical and possible. Before the universe existed, which scientists agree, time did not exist therefore God created time meaning God is not bound by time. So that means God can enter time and do what he wants. He could tell people what he did and why. In fact he would probably want to tell people that he in fact made the universe and beyond because people would be able to avoid questions like "what and why we are here?"

A famous person said this "Would it not be strange if a universe without purpose accidently created humans who are so obsessed with purpose?"
Sir John Templeton

Lets say Jesus was born today so we put it in the newspapers. Then 2000 years from now futuristic people find it and say "it is just a religious document. It never happened." That is probably what happened to the ancients. I think we give way to little credit to how smart they were.

Imotoku


ioioouiouiouio

PostPosted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 6:25 pm


ChainedFury
Are you sure? surprised

Absolutely. It's 'blasphemy against the Spirit'.
PostPosted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 6:49 pm


ChainedFury
Cometh The Inquisitor
ChainedFury
rolleyes Too many sins to be forgiven..

Impossible. There's only one unforgiveable sin and we're not entirely sure exactly what it really is.

Are you sure? surprised


Yup. Everyone sins, but God's cool and understands that. He's a pretty neat guy, actually.

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Natsugia

PostPosted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 7:11 pm


I have to say, how can you NOT believe? Do you really think that our whole world just simply came into being? Let me ask you something. Before the world was created, there was nothing. Absolutely nothing. How can something come out of nothing? It can't. Nothing can come out of nothing, unless you had a creator, God.

Also, we don't have a relationship with someone who is dead. He is alive. Yes, He may have died, but it was His resurrection that makes Him our Messiah. And there's proof. Go out and research archaeological research, and you will find more evidence that supports the Bible than not.

And last, Christians don't see the Bible as a "made up book." They see it as the LIVING Word of God, the most precious thing to us on earth.
PostPosted: Fri Sep 15, 2006 3:05 pm


It is true that nothing can come out of nothing. You're absolutely right. However, where might God have come from? Did he just appear? That's certainly something from nothing. Alright, so say he created time, what was it like before time? Nothing can happen without time. Unless you have God I suppose xp

I can't really think of God as being alive or dead. He isn't human. He isn't even mammalian. He's probably not even a physically present being. Thus, there's not really a way for him to die. It doesn't work that way.
As for archeological research, I'm gonna need proof of that. You can't just say that and think I'll belive it.

The bible is not a made up book, as you say. However, I can't agree that it is "the LIVING Word of God." God doesn't write books. As I've said, he's not really a physical being. So how might we have this book that's written by him? Did he just tell someone what to say? SO can you please explain to mejust why you think it's this God fellow's living word?

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Imotoku

PostPosted: Fri Sep 15, 2006 4:54 pm


Dr. Kool
It is true that nothing can come out of nothing. You're absolutely right. However, where might God have come from? Did he just appear? That's certainly something from nothing. Alright, so say he created time, what was it like before time? Nothing can happen without time. Unless you have God I suppose xp

I can't really think of God as being alive or dead. He isn't human. He isn't even mammalian. He's probably not even a physically present being. Thus, there's not really a way for him to die. It doesn't work that way.
As for archeological research, I'm gonna need proof of that. You can't just say that and think I'll belive it.

The bible is not a made up book, as you say. However, I can't agree that it is "the LIVING Word of God." God doesn't write books. As I've said, he's not really a physical being. So how might we have this book that's written by him? Did he just tell someone what to say? SO can you please explain to mejust why you think it's this God fellow's living word?
You can't apply where or when to God. God is outside of time. He was always there.
PostPosted: Sat Sep 16, 2006 8:21 pm


ChainedFury
Cometh The Inquisitor
ChainedFury
rolleyes Too many sins to be forgiven..

Impossible. There's only one unforgiveable sin and we're not entirely sure exactly what it really is.

Are you sure? surprised


Jesus would have forgiven Hitler if Hitler had repented and converted. There is no such thing as "too many sins." When Jesus was up on the cross He became our sins, not just died for them. He was everything that hatred, malice, lust, gluttony, envy, greed, anger, etc. entail. And when He was killed, so was our sin. But when He rose again three days later, He was making a statement, proving that He can lift Himself- and us- out from the death our sin causes. Through Christ all things are possible. Even if you have faith the size of a mustard seed (and in case you don't know how small that is, it's about twice the size of a period) you can tell the mountain to jump into the sea and it will. The only problem with testing that theory is that you do it with doubt in your heart, and that causes your faith to fail. Having doubt makes your faith fail (not saying doubt is wrong ... it characterizes everyone's walk because we all have it) but if you give in to the doubt, it will eventually eat away at your faith until it's all gone.

So to answer you question, yes, we're sure. You could rape a baby and kill its family while having sex with a dog and stealing from the poor and be truly pennant in your heart and have Jesus forgive you and welcome you into His kingdom.

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 22, 2006 3:31 pm


lemme give u a little more information about the bible. it was written a long time ago... and everything in it is true[: if it wasnt, how did the person who wrote the bible know about Rome?
PostPosted: Fri Sep 22, 2006 4:27 pm


What do you mean?

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Captain_Theoretical

PostPosted: Fri Sep 22, 2006 8:47 pm


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lemme give u a little more information about the bible. it was written a long time ago... and everything in it is true[: if it wasnt, how did the person who wrote the bible know about Rome?


Many people wrote the bible. Rome existed at the time the bible was written.

Jesus was killed by the Romans.

Rome dominated from Britain to North Africa, it conquered everything. Palestine, Greece, Spain, etc. etc. etc.|

The Roman empire was HUGE.

A better question would be, how could someone not know about Rome?
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