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PostPosted: Thu Oct 21, 2004 6:16 pm


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Hmm, intro huh..?

Very well, I’m Phoenix, the mystical fiery bird. The Phoenix is a bird, composed of fire (Brain working there...). The Phoenix has many names, some of which : Feng-Haung, Ho-oo, Firebird, Benu and Yel. The origins of the names stated before, are based off the: Chinese, Japanese, Russian, Egyptian, and Native American counterparts. The Phoenix is a large Eagle with red or gold feathers. (Though in the Chinese legend, it has five colors instead of two) The phoenix does not require water, nor fruit, but yet frankincense. The bird lives 500 years, then gathers materials and makes a nest with oak wood, on a palm tree. The frankincense, cinnamon and spikenard and then dies. With all these materials collected, it will arise three days later. In most legends, the Phoenix is said to rise again, thus becoming identified with the resurrection of the Catholic lord, Jesus, a symbol of life after death, and a sense of immortality.


I'd like to say congrats on the multi-source explanation. You might also want to add in the Greek belief in (partly adopted from the Eqyptions), and the Sumerian myth that the phoenix was a guardian of the living soul (Sumerians had no belief of an afterlife).

Tiny corrections to add... Jesus is the Christian lord, not just the Catholic (He's also considered a prophet, not the Messiah, by the Muslims) and only in the past 300 years, after the so-called "Medival Age" and the earlier "Dark Age" when Christians weren't quite strong in any sense, did the idea that Jesus and the phoenix are linked. Cute concept, though.
Thanks, though I don't think the word 'cute' would be the word to describe my post.

I did piece together all of my knowledge of the Phoenix from several different history books and through the Internet, but I don't quite know a lot about religions views on Jesus, so I knew I was making a fairly inaccurate statement.

Also, this is where you post introductions, not where you attempt to make corrections to others peoples posts.... stare
PostPosted: Fri Oct 22, 2004 9:18 pm


Hello there! biggrin

I'm so happy to have been accepted ^^

I've chosen to be Iris, a fairly minor Greek goddess. She was associated with the the Rainbow, which I have claimed as my object.

She was charged with delivering messaged from the gods in the heavens to the people on the earth. The Rainbow is seen as a brisge, a brief union between earth and sky that made it possible smile

I thought it was a really beautiful myth, so I chose it biggrin

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 27, 2004 10:43 am


I'm Hermes, Greek god, carrier of the caduceus, a (Sometimes) winged staff with two snakes wrapped around it in a figure eight.

Although I'm best known as the Messenger god, I am also the god of travelers, shepherds, land travel, orators, literature, cunning, poets, athletics, weights and measures, and thieves. My father is Zeus through one of his many adulterous trysts, this one with the nymph Maia.

My main jobs as a god are to be messenger between the gods and humans, and also the Psychopompos, or the person who leads the newly dead to their afterlife. (So be nice to me, or I'll send ya to the bad place. wink )

One of the most well known stories about me is that of my stealing of my half-brother's cattle. Not one day after my birth, I snuck out and made them walk backwards, so that Apollo wouldn't know where they were. Sacrificing two of them to the twelve great gods, I invented sacrifice. Then, I took a turtle shell, and used the entrails of the sacrificed cattle to create the first lyre. When Apollo came calling, I gave him the lyre, and he let me keep the cattle.

I had fourteen children: Eunomia, Hermaphroditus, Peitho, Rhodos, and Tyche, with Aphrodite, Eumolpus with Aglaulus, Cephalus with Herse, Ceryx with Pandrosus, Pan with Dryope, and Abderus, Aethalides, Echion, Myrtilus, and Daphnis by mothers that even I can't remember... sweatdrop

( I used Wikipedia and this page as on-hand sources for names and specifics of stories and such. smile So if you want more information, go there.)
PostPosted: Thu Nov 04, 2004 8:35 am


I am Artemis, I am also known as Diana. I am also associated with Selene, the Moon, and in later years, I replace her completely. I am the sister of Apollo, often associated with Helios, the Sun in the same way I am associated with the Moon. My mother was Leto and my father was Zeus. I, in fact, helped my mother give birth to my brother just after being born myself.

I am one of the Virgin Godesses and protect my chasity very closely. One time I turned a peeping tom into a deer, and he was torn apart by his own hunting dogs. I also turned my once-friend, Callisto, into a bear after she had an affair with my father. But I later pitited her when her son almost killed her, and so, with my father's help, her and her son were put in the sky as Ursa Major and Minor.

At one point, however, I somehow managed to have a child by Lucifer... though I'm still not quite sure how it happened. Her name was Aradia, and she apparently ended up teaching this witchcraft thing to people in the middle ages. Apparently also from the same source, I'm a lesbian goddess...though I much doubt it... I'm just...not a sexual person...period(yet I do have more female than male friends... though I do like to hang around some guys). Maybe my daughter was, though.... Those Romans!

I am the goddess of the sacred hunt, as well as wild creatures, childbirth, and fishing. Like many other gods, I don't like boastful, arrogant or vain people, especially mortals who think they're better than me. I always carry around a quiver of arrows and a bow... I am an excellent marksmen, in fact, I may be the best (would you dare challenge me?). I am also seen constantly socializing with animals... some people don't get me, but I like the way I am.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 04, 2004 8:37 am


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I'm Hermes, Greek god, carrier of the caduceus, a (Sometimes) winged staff with two snakes wrapped around it in a figure eight.


Hmm...that sounds an awful lot like the symbol for veterinarian practice.... maybe there's a reason for that? wink
PostPosted: Thu Nov 04, 2004 3:19 pm


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I'm Hermes, Greek god, carrier of the caduceus, a (Sometimes) winged staff with two snakes wrapped around it in a figure eight.


Hmm...that sounds an awful lot like the symbol for veterinarian practice.... maybe there's a reason for that? wink

xd I was thinking that myself.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 04, 2004 9:30 pm


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I'm Hermes, Greek god, carrier of the caduceus, a (Sometimes) winged staff with two snakes wrapped around it in a figure eight.


Hmm...that sounds an awful lot like the symbol for veterinarian practice.... maybe there's a reason for that? wink

xd I was thinking that myself.


Here you go my little kiddies... Specialty Symbols
PostPosted: Thu Nov 04, 2004 10:10 pm


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Here you go my little kiddies... Specialty Symbols

Oh! So it is just medicine in general..I'm such an animal nut I was jumping ahead!! xd

Thankyou for the link!

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 05, 2004 9:20 am


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I'm Hermes, Greek god, carrier of the caduceus, a (Sometimes) winged staff with two snakes wrapped around it in a figure eight.


Hmm...that sounds an awful lot like the symbol for veterinarian practice.... maybe there's a reason for that? wink

xd I was thinking that myself.


Here you go my little kiddies... Specialty Symbols
Thor, that site scares me.... o.O

Not really, but I was a little surprised to see what the actual site itself was about. whee I had thought that it symbolized medicine as well, but I think that site you sent us to has it wrong.
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A caduceus (kerykeion in Greek) staff with two snakes wrapped around it.

The caduceus is a symbol of commerce and is associated with the Greek god Hermes. It was originally a herald's staff, sometimes with wings, with two white ribbons attached. The ribbons eventually evolved into snakes in the figure-eight shape.

In modern times it is often mistakenly used interchangeably with the Rod of Asclepius(particularly in the United States), although the two symbols have distinct and unrelated meanings.
It's actually the Rod of Asclepius that represents medicine. 3nodding
PostPosted: Fri Nov 05, 2004 10:23 am


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It's actually the Rod of Asclepius that represents medicine. 3nodding

Hmm..you may be very right 3nodding though I must say I am thoroughly confused.
Maybe there's a reason they're similiar? Hmm... whee

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 05, 2004 10:47 am


Doing some deeper looking on Wikipedia:
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Aside from its universal use as a symbol of regeneration and Immortality, the serpent, when forming a ring with its tail in its mouth, is also a clear and widespread symbol of the All-in-All, the totality of existence. See Amphisbaena, Ouroboros.

Snakes entwine the staffs both of Hermes (the cadeuceus, illustration, left) and of Asclepius, where a single snake entwines the rough staff. On Hermes' caduceus, the snakes are not merely duplicated for symmetry, they are paired opposites. The wings at the head of the staff identify it as belonging to the winged messenger, Hermes, the Roman Mercury, who was the master of diplomacy and rhetoric, of inventions and discoveries, the protector both of merchants and that allied occupation, to the mythographers' view, of thieves. In Late Antiquity, as the arcane study of alchemy developed, Mercury was understood to be the protector of those arts too and of arcane or occult "Hermetic' information in general. Chemistry and medicines thus linked the rod of Hermes with the staff of the healer Asclepius, which was wound with a serpent; it was conflated with Mercury's rod, and the modern medical symbol— which should simply be the rod of Asclepius— has often become Mercury's wand of commerce. Art historian Walter J. Friedlander, in The Golden Wand of Medicine: A History of the Caduceus Symbol in Medicine (1992) collected hundreds of examples of the caduceus and the rod of Asclepius and found that professional associations were just somewhat more likely to use the staff of Asclepius, while commercial organizations in the medical field were more likely to use the caduceus.

So it would appear that commercial medicine uses the caduceus, which is actually a symbol of commerce.

I think that, in part, the rod intwined with a snake also refers to the Biblical story where, sometime during the banishment to the desert I believe, where the people of Israel are bitten by snakes, and the leader (Either Moses or Aaron I think) is told to hold up a staff with a bronze snake on it, and everyone who sees it is healed of the snake bites.
PostPosted: Fri Nov 05, 2004 12:15 pm


Hmm...and it also seems to tie back into the Adam and Eve story... with the snake. Interesting that medicine would use a snake/rod symbol...

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 05, 2004 4:34 pm


First off, I WOULD recommend to all to stop using Wikipedia as a resource, since all information there is unconfirmed and it "public knowledge" with regional bais. If you look up the American Civil War, for example, you will find many different "real reasons" though most are filtered out now by the well-to-do public.

Secondly, the Greeco-Roman stories predate contact with the Hebrew societies, so there is no connection there.

And lastly, what better symbol for medicine than a poison? Apothecaries will tell you that life-saving and death-bringing are only one herb apart. With a snake, you have a source of evil (where fear of it exist) and a source of healing (in many "mysticism" cultures that still are around)
PostPosted: Sat Nov 06, 2004 11:37 am


I wasn't saying there was a connection between Hebrew and Greeco-Roman stories, merely that the staff Moses used to heal could also be the one used in hospitals.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 11, 2004 11:28 am


Hello, I am the Oriental Dragon.

Much different from the european dragon, the Oriental Dragon represents knowledge, divinity, power and good fortune.

It is said in the far East that each Dragon wears a pearl attached to a string around their neck. Any who gain pocession of such pearl has the Dragon under their command.

Many are the tales of men and women who have seeked the wisdom of the Dragons, and many also tell of those who sought a Dragon's pearl.

Some say Dragons impersonate natural aspects of the world, such as the Storms, Clouds, Eartquakes and Rain, and therefore there are the Storm Dragon, Cloud Dragon, Eartquake Dragon (some legends in Japan claim that eartquakes are caused by a great Dragon that lives underneath the isles, and when it moves its coils, the earth shakes) and so on.
Others say dragons are divine creatures not bound by such limitations, and that their true powers are unfathomable.

The symbol of the Chinese Emperor for many dinasties, Oriental Dragons are also associated with Healing, Wisdom, Revenge and Purity.
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