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 Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 3:35 am
More will come, but this is a start heart ĝoju!
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Posted: Fri Sep 15, 2006 1:45 am
Isn't o pronounced more like the "aw" in "law"? Simply like a spanish o?
Also, you should add the -us verb tense. Don't really know what it's called, though neutral
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Posted: Fri Sep 15, 2006 2:30 am
Niddler Isn't o pronounced more like the "aw" in "law"? Simply like a spanish o? Also, you should add the -us verb tense. Don't really know what it's called, though neutral Thanks! It's the conditional, I think. I'm not sure.
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Posted: Fri Sep 15, 2006 12:14 pm
eiei...OMGWTFBBQ Niddler [...] Also, you should add the -us verb tense. Don't really know what it's called, though neutral Thanks! It's the conditional, I think. I'm not sure. That sounds very right smile Few uses the pronoun ci, which is you, but only when to a single person and less formal. - I think..? confused
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Posted: Sat Sep 16, 2006 9:53 am
Niddler eiei...OMGWTFBBQ Niddler [...] Also, you should add the -us verb tense. Don't really know what it's called, though neutral Thanks! It's the conditional, I think. I'm not sure. That sounds very right smile Few uses the pronoun ci, which is you, but only when to a single person and less formal. - I think..? confused I've heard one of them means "thou" I think that's it.
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Posted: Sat Sep 16, 2006 12:58 pm
Ci does mean "thou," which is the second person singular (i.e. "you" when talking to one person).
But just as in Modern English, it is perfectly fine to use vi to refer to either singular or plural "you".
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Posted: Sat Sep 16, 2006 8:23 pm
Dave Ci does mean "thou," which is the second person singular (i.e. "you" when talking to one person). But just as in Modern English, it is perfectly fine to use vi to refer to either singular or plural "you". Thanks Dave. 3nodding Glad that I have someone agreeing with me.
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Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2006 3:07 pm
Niddler eiei...OMGWTFBBQ Niddler [...] Also, you should add the -us verb tense. Don't really know what it's called, though neutral Thanks! It's the conditional, I think. I'm not sure. That sounds very right smile -us is conditional for example Mi volus iri. I would like to go. in contrast to "Mi volas iri" I want to go. If that makes sense?
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Posted: Wed Dec 27, 2006 6:28 pm
Uh ... I really don't mean to be rude, but I do suggest a clean up of the lessons if you hope to attract more people that want an easy way to learn.
Like in the post titled "The Basics." I'm not so sure that the pronouns belong in that post. It seems more suited for the post with the nouns since "The Basics" seems to focus more on pronunciation anyway.
It should also be noted - in "Verbs" to be consistant - that the verb "esti" does not make an object take the -n at the end.
Example:
La suno ne estas blua.
The sun is not blue.
Also, Command is not the correct term. It's actually called Imperative.
"La" is actually required to refer to a noun as definite. "La" is the equivalent of "the" in English. However, there is no indefinite particle in Esperanto alike to that of "a/an" in English.
The rules in "Adjectives" also needs to be changed. When adjectives are in the object position, they take "-n" like nouns. Also, should the noun that the adjective is effecting be plural, the adjective will also take "-j" at the end.
Example:
Rugxaj manoj.
Red hands.
Li havas rugxan manon.
He has a red hand.
Sxiaj manoj estas amata de mi.
Her hands are being loved by me.
As you can see, possessive pronouns are treated like adjectives. They take "-j" when the noun is plural, and take "-n" when the noun is an object.
Aaand ... in any case, we should try to be consistant. If a rule concerns a verb, it should be mentioned in "Verbs," and a noun rule should be included in "Nouns," and etc.
Also, perhaps, a little clean up in this order might work as well:The Basics:
Pronouns:
mi - I/me
vi - you
li - he
ŝi - she
ĝi - it
ili - they
ni - we
Letters:
Esperanto has 28 letters, but there's no guessing which sound each one makes - unlike in English where "c" or "g" can make several different sounds.
Vowels:
a - ah like in "father"
e - eh like in "hem"
i - ee like in "sweet"
o - aw like in "law"; also heard pronounced as "o" like in "toe"
u - oo like in "boot
Consonants:
b - b, like in "baker"
c - ts, like in "cats"
ĉ - ch, like in "chocolate"
d - d, like in "dove"
f - f like in "fan"
g - g like in "goat"
ĝ - g like in "gem"
h - h like in in "he "
ĥ - ch like in the Scottish "loch"
j - y like in "young"
ĵ - s like in in pleasure
k - k like in "cook"
l - l like in "live"
m - m like in "monkey"
n - n like in "no"
p - p like in "pie"
r - trilled like the spanish "r"
s - s like in "squash "
ŝ - sh like in "sheep"
t - t like in "turtle"
ŭ - w sound like in "ow." This sound is always after a vowel.
v - v like in "vole"
z - z like in "zoo"
In Esperanto, the accent always goes on the next to last syllable. So hundego would be pronounced "hundego," not "hundego" or "hundego."
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Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2006 10:19 am
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Posted: Sat Jan 13, 2007 9:44 am
dirtmonkeyal Uh ... I really don't mean to be rude, but I do suggest a clean up of the lessons if you hope to attract more people that want an easy way to learn.
Like in the post titled "The Basics." I'm not so sure that the pronouns belong in that post. It seems more suited for the post with the nouns since "The Basics" seems to focus more on pronunciation anyway.
It should also be noted - in "Verbs" to be consistant - that the verb "esti" does not make an object take the -n at the end.
Example:
La suno ne estas blua.
The sun is not blue.
Also, Command is not the correct term. It's actually called Imperative.
"La" is actually required to refer to a noun as definite. "La" is the equivalent of "the" in English. However, there is no indefinite particle in Esperanto alike to that of "a/an" in English.
The rules in "Adjectives" also needs to be changed. When adjectives are in the object position, they take "-n" like nouns. Also, should the noun that the adjective is effecting be plural, the adjective will also take "-j" at the end.
Example:
Rugxaj manoj.
Red hands.
Li havas rugxan manon.
He has a red hand.
Sxiaj manoj estas amata de mi.
Her hands are being loved by me.
As you can see, possessive pronouns are treated like adjectives. They take "-j" when the noun is plural, and take "-n" when the noun is an object.
Aaand ... in any case, we should try to be consistant. If a rule concerns a verb, it should be mentioned in "Verbs," and a noun rule should be included in "Nouns," and etc.
Also, perhaps, a little clean up in this order might work as well:The Basics:
Pronouns:
mi - I/me
vi - you
li - he
ŝi - she
ĝi - it
ili - they
ni - we
Letters:
Esperanto has 28 letters, but there's no guessing which sound each one makes - unlike in English where "c" or "g" can make several different sounds.
Vowels:
a - ah like in "father"
e - eh like in "hem"
i - ee like in "sweet"
o - aw like in "law"; also heard pronounced as "o" like in "toe"
u - oo like in "boot
Consonants:
b - b, like in "baker"
c - ts, like in "cats"
ĉ - ch, like in "chocolate"
d - d, like in "dove"
f - f like in "fan"
g - g like in "goat"
ĝ - g like in "gem"
h - h like in in "he "
ĥ - ch like in the Scottish "loch"
j - y like in "young"
ĵ - s like in in pleasure
k - k like in "cook"
l - l like in "live"
m - m like in "monkey"
n - n like in "no"
p - p like in "pie"
r - trilled like the spanish "r"
s - s like in "squash "
ŝ - sh like in "sheep"
t - t like in "turtle"
ŭ - w sound like in "ow." This sound is always after a vowel.
v - v like in "vole"
z - z like in "zoo"
In Esperanto, the accent always goes on the next to last syllable. So hundego would be pronounced "hundego," not "hundego" or "hundego." Sorry to quote all of this. You're right. I need to get that rewritten soon. I would've been back in the guild sooner, but I've been spending most of my time either studying or taking exams. Now that I'm free from them for a while, I promise I'll get it cleaned up soon 3nodding
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