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 Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2006 4:59 pm
Starlock:
I like your theory. I whole lot. It took a while for me to get, I'll admit. Your mind seems much more analitical than mine. x.x heh I have my own theories... they're much more free floating though. I consider an organic being to be a container. Balls of energy (found in ghost sightings) are parts of a soul. Say if a person dies, some of that soul might disipate back into the greater flow of energy, but some has been so condensed (due to thousands of different reasons) that it can't disolve and chooses to stay together. A small piece of what a person once was. Many of these orbs can fall into another body that has room later on. These personality traits are imposed onto that person. Memories that never happened are dreamt about. Which also means one can have two past lives occuring in a short time span of each other.
My idea of souls is more energy based, so I suppose that's why I'm so attached to me theory. However, yours was so well thought out I was dazzled. It's the best soul theory I've EVER heard of. I could talk to you for days about it. Do not fear in wearing me out on it! Fear me taking a while to catch on. sweatdrop heh My mind works so differently than most people's, but I take that as a challenge to learn to understand others.
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Posted: Mon Jul 31, 2006 10:51 am
redface Thanks for the compliments. I've been developing the system on and off since I was like... eight years old (and I'm twenty-two now, so that's a long time) so I've had a lot of time to integrate new information into it. When I find logic holes, I fix them instead of just let the inconsistency stay there. Soul Theory (yes, it lacks a better name) is meant to synch with another system that many here would probably find very alluring. I don't really have plans to post that up, however, even though I actually have that system written out, unlike Soul Theory.
I like the energy model too, probably because it reminds me of a concept in ecology. Basically, every living organism is, in a scientific sense, a ball of energy with respect to its environment. Living organisms are high-concentrations of energy compared to non-living things and because of entropy (2nd law of thermodynamics) there's a tendancy for this energy to want to diffuse into the environment. Living things remain living by staving off this process... by keeping their high-energy status. When a living thing reaches a state of energy equilibrium with it's environment... the organism dies. Not sure how that fits in with what you said... but it's what came to mind anyway. Heh.
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Posted: Tue Sep 12, 2006 5:42 pm
So when two people are together for a long time and share the same experiances then the time they share together becomes one because you cant have two of the same experiances.... it would be a way to cut back on ummm i dont know if its really space >.< this is confusing but interesting. But isnt perception what makes up this reality for each of us really and everyone sees and feels things diffrently? So wouldnt that make the situations simular but diffrent thus changing the experance so that they are not the same? I like the idea ofcourse that i tide to those i have spent time with by a thread because we shared experances but i cant really see their experances being the say though the situation is in reality.
or is perseption and emotion disreagarded in this?
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Posted: Sat Sep 16, 2006 9:18 am
I think I found out a way to describe otherkin. Souls are made of energy, well so many studies say and many people believe. Each soul is made of diffrent energies. When a soul is created the diffrent patterns of energy create, I believe, a preset form. Meaning the soul is meant to be just an angel, wereanimal, fae, so forth. Because of the Theory of Reincarnation the soul in its preset form doesn't change and remains the same, but the body changes. This can explain astral limbs, and the likes of all other behavior.
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Posted: Mon Jan 01, 2007 7:46 pm
What an interesting theory you have. Flink loves it and agrees with it muchly. It's a lot like what she'd been using to... define souls, if that's what some would like to call if since she can't think of anything better.
Now, Flink would like to kindly ask you to elaborate on something. That's basically what CoonHillda said in his/her post. Can you elaborate on what you believe happens when two souls are together for an extended amount of time? Such as people who're married or some such for many years.
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Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 3:48 pm
Xx_Nobody_xX I think I found out a way to describe otherkin. Souls are made of energy, well so many studies say and many people believe. Each soul is made of diffrent energies. When a soul is created the diffrent patterns of energy create, I believe, a preset form. Meaning the soul is meant to be just an angel, wereanimal, fae, so forth. Because of the Theory of Reincarnation the soul in its preset form doesn't change and remains the same, but the body changes. This can explain astral limbs, and the likes of all other behavior. I actually agree with that theory. While animal souls and human souls will be quite similar since humans are animals, non-animal otherkin have souls that are composed completely different. The energies are different and the patterns are different. A dragon's soul will not be the same as a human's soul. The body may change and rot, but the soul remains what it was when it was first created. Thus we have the idea of beings who have human bodies but their souls are not human, but instead something completely different. That's how I view it anyway.
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Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2007 7:10 am
Flink.Pamingo
What an interesting theory you have. Flink loves it and agrees with it muchly. It's a lot like what she'd been using to... define souls, if that's what some would like to call if since she can't think of anything better.
Now, Flink would like to kindly ask you to elaborate on something. That's basically what CoonHillda said in his/her post. Can you elaborate on what you believe happens when two souls are together for an extended amount of time? Such as people who're married or some such for many years.
Apologies, I haven't checked this subforum in forever. Basically what this would look like (again using line metaphors) is that you have two lines that at some point along their length are more interconnected than they are with others... you can visualize this like two threads wrapped around each other like yarn or something. I did kinda allude to in one of the posts though that discreetness of identity is in some ways an illusion depending on what scale you're looking at. Some of the details I haven't particularly worked out and this is pretty much all hypothetical anyway. This same model, though, can be applied to the physical world as well which is probably why I've stuck with it for so long. whee
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Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 12:44 pm
Koemiko Ahahaha. I always saw Vampires as part of otherkin. vampirism has more to do with damage to the subtle body(soul) than anything, so it cant be considered 'otherkin' because it isnt having anything to do with mystic beings as much as damage done to the soul. now, as for why i believe, i am otherkin. i am a dragon. i believe this because i have had it confirmed to me by others. spirits, you should know by talking to psychics, do not always appear in the form they were when they died. oftentimes they do, because that is the only form they knew or were comfortable with, but i digress. Animals and humans all have different souls. all of which are unique to them. As such, it is concievable that these souls can evetually reincarnate into human form(i follow a celtic pagan belief, statign that we live this life, die, live on on the other side(though it gets more complicated than that) until we die there, and then we reincarnate here). of course, one has to have some knowledge of the spiritual realm to truly understand kin-ness. so if you dont, or if you simply dont believe in reincarnation, then you may as well give up ever trying to learn of it.
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Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2007 3:54 am
I always thought of Otherkin as people who just have differant... form? Like, most people's is humanoid for the most part, and Otherkin have more animal-like form. And as for the Otherkin elves, and fairies, and angels, and what not, I thought it was simply what they feel their shape looks more like. o__o;; I never thought it had anything to do with the SOUL soul... Just something else. -__-;; As to what that is I'm not sure. sweatdrop
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Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 5:16 pm
Nocturne Shadow I always thought of Otherkin as people who just have differant... form? Like, most people's is humanoid for the most part, and Otherkin have more animal-like form. And as for the Otherkin elves, and fairies, and angels, and what not, I thought it was simply what they feel their shape looks more like. o__o;; I never thought it had anything to do with the SOUL soul... Just something else. -__-;; As to what that is I'm not sure. sweatdrop There are many theories on Otherkin, and almost everyone will give you a different answer. 1.) Their actual SOUL is that of something else. I do find this a little ridiculous, to be honest. Why would a demon, or an elf, incarnate itself in a human form? 2.) Their spirit has an imprint of something else. This could be a past life memory, or an attribute gifted to them. 3.) Potentially, in the case of weres, that animal may be the person's totem, so they exhibit attributes of that animal. 4.) It could be their astral selves that takes this form. It's countless, and still a quite confusing concept for everyone in the paranormal.
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Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 9:33 pm
I think that it's a combination of things. I have non-human past-life memories, so if I'm to believe anything about the soul, it's that it doesn't have to be just one species. I've always thought that a soul was a soul, though--it doesn't matter whether it's in a human, a hawk, or a mouse.
I suspect genetics might be involved. I've noted that psi talent runs in families, and virtually ALL otherkin are innate psi.
Perhaps it has something to do with the aforementioned psi ability...some sort of imprinting at a young age...merging mentally with a spirit or animal, and just having such a strong impact from that that's it always remembered?
I couldn't say for sure what kin-ness is, but I'm therian, and always have been. It's just part of who I am.
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Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2007 10:05 pm
WingedWolfPsion I think that it's a combination of things. I have non-human past-life memories, so if I'm to believe anything about the soul, it's that it doesn't have to be just one species. I've always thought that a soul was a soul, though--it doesn't matter whether it's in a human, a hawk, or a mouse. I suspect genetics might be involved. I've noted that psi talent runs in families, and virtually ALL otherkin are innate psi. Perhaps it has something to do with the aforementioned psi ability...some sort of imprinting at a young age...merging mentally with a spirit or animal, and just having such a strong impact from that that's it always remembered? I couldn't say for sure what kin-ness is, but I'm therian, and always have been. It's just part of who I am. I agree with most of this... Although, one point to state is that to me therians and otherkin are... basically the same thing. sweatdrop If there were a difference I mean, it's that otherkin are those "mythological" beings, and therians are the "real" animals. Oh... and one point on the matter of how the soul is supposed to behave (the debate of it being "soul is a soul is a...") is that I heard one person use an example as the argument that souls are all the same: water, being poured into bowls. However, I thought on this... you pour the water and sure, the water just fills the shape... I'm more concerned with like, anything that could be in the bowls each time you pour from one to another. Think, an empty bowl will gather dust, and then there's always a chance that as water sits around it's going to gather things in it too. sweatdrop
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