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 Posted: Wed May 31, 2006 4:14 pm
Can't say that I think about anything that deep while I'm in the shower, generally my thoughts all center around "I hope no one's home to hear my horrible singing." redface
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Posted: Wed May 31, 2006 4:37 pm
Setzer ~Another~ nemesiss i had this one lately: 0 * [infinity] = 1 proof: limit -> 1/X = 0 limit -> X = [infinitiy] 0 * [infinity] = 1/X * X = X/X = 1 Hmm, but X is an infinitely big number, so even though 1/X would be infinitely small, pretty much negligent, it would still be a number, making 1/X =/= 0 then you need to learn Limits on a mathmatical level... i left out "limit ->" since they canceled each outher out. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Limit_(mathematics)
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Posted: Wed May 31, 2006 4:45 pm
Tolerance is not fire-bombing a loud-a** ricer when a stereotypical black or Hispanic kid drives by.
Then again, I was just asking for it living outside the motor capital of the United States.
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Posted: Wed May 31, 2006 5:24 pm
nemesiss Setzer ~Another~ nemesiss i had this one lately: 0 * [infinity] = 1 proof: limit -> 1/X = 0 limit -> X = [infinitiy] 0 * [infinity] = 1/X * X = X/X = 1 Hmm, but X is an infinitely big number, so even though 1/X would be infinitely small, pretty much negligent, it would still be a number, making 1/X =/= 0 then you need to learn Limits on a mathmatical level... i left out "limit ->" since they canceled each outher out. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Limit_(mathematics) Yuck. I'm management, not physics or CS. But from what that seems to say, I don't really like the concept of a limit. Or at least not on the concept as it is related to infinity. Because infinity isn't really approaching any number (or at least our concept of infinity seems to say there is no end to numbers, so there seems to be no number to approach), so because infinity is no number, but just a concept of a number, you can't really say the divisible is really approaching a number. That's how it looks to me at least. But yeah, that limit concept is neat. Didn't know that one. Don't need much higher level math for business Edit- But yeah, looking at the formula and assuming the limit and infinity concepts work together, that's a pretty damn good formula
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Posted: Wed May 31, 2006 11:34 pm
This is far too much math for my liking....
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Posted: Wed May 31, 2006 11:36 pm
Crimson_And_Clover This is far too much math for my liking....
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Posted: Thu Jun 01, 2006 1:09 am
simplest way to learn about limits....
take a very large number to devide by 1..
example... 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000
that would make it: 1/1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000
or: 0,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,001
as you can see that a very small number.
it may not by 0, but its becoming very close to it.
making the number even smaller would make it become even closer to 0
but ...
at some point you can say: well, it may not be 0 zero, by its close enough
and you round it down.. mostly for practicly uses..
or would you really write out 0.333......
ontopic:
what i was thinking this morning in the shower:
meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow...
sometimes i feel like a little kittykat.. ^__^
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Posted: Thu Jun 01, 2006 8:52 am
Too much math. 'Specially since I finished Algebra 2 just two days ago. <_<;
Ooon topic: This one came a few years ago:
If you were on a space ship travelling the speed of light and it crashed into something, propelling you out of the vehicle at rates faster than you were previously travelling, what the heck would happen? Especially since you supposedly can't travel faster than the speed of light.
I still don't get why walking forwards on a vehicle such as that wouldn't count. Does it have to do with being in a contained space or some such?
Maybe I should take Physics Senior year. <<;;;;;
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Posted: Thu Jun 01, 2006 10:47 am
nemesiss simplest way to learn about limits.... take a very large number to devide by 1.. example... 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 that would make it: 1/1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 or: 0,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,001 as you can see that a very small number. it may not by 0, but its becoming very close to it. making the number even smaller would make it become even closer to 0 but ... at some point you can say: well, it may not be 0 zero, by its close enough and you round it down.. mostly for practicly uses.. or would you really write out 0.333...... ontopic: what i was thinking this morning in the shower: meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow... sometimes i feel like a little kittykat.. ^__^ Yeah, I can understand the concept easy enough, but it's merely true if you round it, and the whole 0*infinity=1 is too big a statement to be proved by rounding. Dude, this is great. I haven't wrapped my head around math in a while. Fun stuff. Woof O_O
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Posted: Thu Jun 01, 2006 5:30 pm
A Fatal Fairytale Too much math. 'Specially since I finished Algebra 2 just two days ago. <_<;
Ooon topic: This one came a few years ago:
If you were on a space ship travelling the speed of light and it crashed into something, propelling you out of the vehicle at rates faster than you were previously travelling, what the heck would happen? Especially since you supposedly can't travel faster than the speed of light.
I still don't get why walking forwards on a vehicle such as that wouldn't count. Does it have to do with being in a contained space or some such?
Maybe I should take Physics Senior year. <<;;;;; From what I understand of physics (I didn't take any formal classes, so forgive) you actually wouldn't be going faster. While your vehicle is stopped, you (or any object in the vehicle) is still traveling at the same rate until it too is stopped by an object. In space, you would keep going until interfered with by the gravity of an object, or interfered with by debris (Meaning, you wouldn't go any faster). Since the speed of light is already kind of the speed barrier, the only real way I can imagine to travel at such speed would be to transfer your matter into light particles. And if we could do that, well, we'd be able to basically teleport people. But the particles would be so small, they'd get blocked and mixed up and lost easily, I think, so it wouldn't exactly be perfect. If we were talking on a planet with gravity, well, your mass would eventually lose velocity without propulsion due to the gravity, and wind resistance, and other forces. You'd basically scrape against the ground until you stopped. Walking forward on a vehicle wouldn't because (saying there is some kind of gravity holding you to the ship) the ship itself is still your means of acceleration. And anything holding you to the ship would still be holding you even if you tried to jump away (Or it crashed), so that force would still be effecting you until you got far enough away from it for it not to. And it would slow you down in the meantime. If there were no such force, well, you'd get bumped away and would just float off in some random direction at near light speeds I guess. Like I said, thats just what I get from my understanding of Physics. I'm sure I'm forgetting a ton of things. Theoretically, if you could travel at the speed of light, you would experience no passage of time. Awesome!
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Posted: Thu Jun 01, 2006 7:20 pm
Ew! Math!
Get it off, get it off, get it off! mad
(rubs face in networking books)
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Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2006 4:39 pm
Wolffy000 From what I understand of physics (I didn't take any formal classes, so forgive) you actually wouldn't be going faster. While your vehicle is stopped, you (or any object in the vehicle) is still traveling at the same rate until it too is stopped by an object. In space, you would keep going until interfered with by the gravity of an object, or interfered with by debris (Meaning, you wouldn't go any faster). Since the speed of light is already kind of the speed barrier, the only real way I can imagine to travel at such speed would be to transfer your matter into light particles. And if we could do that, well, we'd be able to basically teleport people. But the particles would be so small, they'd get blocked and mixed up and lost easily, I think, so it wouldn't exactly be perfect. If we were talking on a planet with gravity, well, your mass would eventually lose velocity without propulsion due to the gravity, and wind resistance, and other forces. You'd basically scrape against the ground until you stopped. Walking forward on a vehicle wouldn't because (saying there is some kind of gravity holding you to the ship) the ship itself is still your means of acceleration. And anything holding you to the ship would still be holding you even if you tried to jump away (Or it crashed), so that force would still be effecting you until you got far enough away from it for it not to. And it would slow you down in the meantime. If there were no such force, well, you'd get bumped away and would just float off in some random direction at near light speeds I guess. Like I said, thats just what I get from my understanding of Physics. I'm sure I'm forgetting a ton of things. Theoretically, if you could travel at the speed of light, you would experience no passage of time. Awesome! I actually understood that! You should be a teacher or something. =)
Oh, I can imagine someone trying to teleport like that and getting mixed up with a kangaroo. If you want to throw a bit of theology in the mix, your soul probably wouldn't survive being ripped apart and pieced together again.
Would that mean that (in theory) going faster than the speed of light would result in a time warp or something?
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Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2006 7:37 pm
A Fatal Fairytale I actually understood that! You should be a teacher or something. =)
Oh, I can imagine someone trying to teleport like that and getting mixed up with a kangaroo. If you want to throw a bit of theology in the mix, your soul probably wouldn't survive being ripped apart and pieced together again.
Would that mean that (in theory) going faster than the speed of light would result in a time warp or something? Haha, I don't really know anything about that. I'm not very good at teaching, but I can explain some things well enough to understand. The teleportation thing is a very strange concept, since it's the (near) instantanious transfer of matter. I can't imagine how it would work properly, really. Though, on the concept of souls, it's what you believe a soul is. If your body is the housing for a soul (As a jar would be for gas) then chances are it isn't exactly something that is "composed" in the first place, so theoretically there isn't anything to tear apart or repair. If you were to believe that the soul is a part of your total conciousness, well, there is a chance that with some mixing of your mind that you wouldn't exactly be "whole" or the same as when you started. Kind of like a lobotomy, in a way, but I doubt the results would be quite so severe. Hmmm, well, time is a relative to the object, so it's hard to say. But I guess in theory that the faster you go compared to the speed of light, time would start to reverse for the subject. There is also the possibility that there would be a slight precognitive effect, allowing you to see future events farther and farther the faster you went. I really couldn't say. I always hear very weird theories on time travel. It's such an interesting subject.
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Posted: Sat Jun 03, 2006 1:30 am
ddr steps...
i think i play to much, and also help a friend with step patterns...
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Posted: Sat Jun 03, 2006 7:50 am
Wolffy000 Haha, I don't really know anything about that. I'm not very good at teaching, but I can explain some things well enough to understand. The teleportation thing is a very strange concept, since it's the (near) instantanious transfer of matter. I can't imagine how it would work properly, really. Though, on the concept of souls, it's what you believe a soul is. If your body is the housing for a soul (As a jar would be for gas) then chances are it isn't exactly something that is "composed" in the first place, so theoretically there isn't anything to tear apart or repair. If you were to believe that the soul is a part of your total conciousness, well, there is a chance that with some mixing of your mind that you wouldn't exactly be "whole" or the same as when you started. Kind of like a lobotomy, in a way, but I doubt the results would be quite so severe. Hmmm, well, time is a relative to the object, so it's hard to say. But I guess in theory that the faster you go compared to the speed of light, time would start to reverse for the subject. There is also the possibility that there would be a slight precognitive effect, allowing you to see future events farther and farther the faster you went. I really couldn't say. I always hear very weird theories on time travel. It's such an interesting subject. You certainly did well on the physics stuff. I'm usually lost in the clouds when people start talking about it.
In some book or the other I read, it mentioned having an exact copy of yourself at wherever you wanted to go, and that you would have to remove it at the exact same time that your actual self started to materialize there, making it very nearly impossible. But if it's contained in your body, when you become particles, wouldn't that be somewhat like breaking the jar or opening a window? I would hate to find out what would hapen if your consciousness got mixed up, with itself or with someone else's.
So, you might end up going to the past? If time would start to reverse, it seems to make more sense to do that than be able to see the future, or even be in the future.
I like going to Borders so I can just browse all the books on theories of time traveling. Such interesting stuff, even if I'm not too sure I understand half of it.
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