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 Posted: Sat Jun 03, 2006 8:26 pm
Lethkhar Celtic Mystick I don't want an actual logical responce from it all. I want you to consider what I say as a possible thing. There is no logical way for me to explain alot of things, thats like trying to explain where the first dust partical came from, cuz no one knows. Lol, I didn't mean it as an argument at all, I put it out there to simply show you a small bit of what I believe in and about how I view things. The problem is, I didn't see any views there. I just saw a bunch of talk about animals and how logic is stupid. I garuntee what you believe is logical. Otherwise you wouldn't believe it. Thats probley true but not really what I was talking about. Its hard to explain. I'am not sure I can explain it, I just feel it and thats pretty much it.
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Posted: Sat Jun 03, 2006 8:34 pm
Celtic Mystick Lethkhar Celtic Mystick I don't want an actual logical responce from it all. I want you to consider what I say as a possible thing. There is no logical way for me to explain alot of things, thats like trying to explain where the first dust partical came from, cuz no one knows. Lol, I didn't mean it as an argument at all, I put it out there to simply show you a small bit of what I believe in and about how I view things. The problem is, I didn't see any views there. I just saw a bunch of talk about animals and how logic is stupid. I garuntee what you believe is logical. Otherwise you wouldn't believe it. Thats probley true but not really what I was talking about. Its hard to explain. I'am not sure I can explain it, I just feel it and thats pretty much it. But there's logic in that. You feel like you should believe something, therefore you believe it. That's logic. Basic logic, granted, but logic nonetheless.
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Posted: Sat Jun 03, 2006 8:42 pm
Okay, I suppose but thats a different kind to. Others wouldn't say that, they would say its just in my head.
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Posted: Sat Jun 03, 2006 8:53 pm
Celtic Mystick Okay, I suppose but thats a different kind to. Others wouldn't say that, they would say its just in my head. I say chances are that it's in your head. However, I do accept the possibility that you may very well be speaking the truth, and that only you can see these things. I would say it's highly likely that you either: 1.Are on drugs. OR 2.You suffer from paranoid schizophrenia, sort of like John Nash. Joh Nash claimed that he lived on an "ultralogical plane", sort of like you do. Brilliant man. Mad, but brilliant. The line between them is often blurred. I suggest you take this certified test: http://www.schizophrenia.com/sztest/
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Posted: Sat Jun 03, 2006 8:56 pm
Lethkhar Celtic Mystick Okay, I suppose but thats a different kind to. Others wouldn't say that, they would say its just in my head. I say chances are that it's in your head. However, I do accept the possibility that you may very well be speaking the truth, and that only you can see these things. I would say it's highly likely that you either: 1.Are on drugs. OR 2.You suffer from paranoid schizophrenia, sort of like John Nash. Joh Nash claimed that he lived on an "ultralogical plane", sort of like you do. Brilliant man. Mad, but brilliant. The line between them is often blurred. No, I'm not on drugs. Now the second thing is that the doctors think I'am nuts but um I know I'am not. I have came across others like my self who can do the same things. There is no logical explaination between how I know the things I know. However, I cannot actually proove I can do it. The reason behind it all is because its only supposed to be used freely and wisly intead of for foolish reasons like to just proove that its there.
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Posted: Sat Jun 03, 2006 8:59 pm
Celtic Mystick Lethkhar Celtic Mystick Okay, I suppose but thats a different kind to. Others wouldn't say that, they would say its just in my head. I say chances are that it's in your head. However, I do accept the possibility that you may very well be speaking the truth, and that only you can see these things. I would say it's highly likely that you either: 1.Are on drugs. OR 2.You suffer from paranoid schizophrenia, sort of like John Nash. Joh Nash claimed that he lived on an "ultralogical plane", sort of like you do. Brilliant man. Mad, but brilliant. The line between them is often blurred. No, I'm not on drugs. Now the second thing is that the doctors think I'am nuts but um I know I'am not. I have came across others like my self who can do the same things. There is no logical explaination between how I know the things I know. However, I cannot actually proove I can do it. The reason behind it all is because its only supposed to be used freely and wisly intead of for foolish reasons like to just proove that its there. I still suggest you take the test that I posted. Psychiatry might help. There's more than one person who suffers from schizophrenia.
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Posted: Sat Jun 03, 2006 9:06 pm
Lethkhar Celtic Mystick Lethkhar Celtic Mystick Okay, I suppose but thats a different kind to. Others wouldn't say that, they would say its just in my head. I say chances are that it's in your head. However, I do accept the possibility that you may very well be speaking the truth, and that only you can see these things. I would say it's highly likely that you either: 1.Are on drugs. OR 2.You suffer from paranoid schizophrenia, sort of like John Nash. Joh Nash claimed that he lived on an "ultralogical plane", sort of like you do. Brilliant man. Mad, but brilliant. The line between them is often blurred. No, I'm not on drugs. Now the second thing is that the doctors think I'am nuts but um I know I'am not. I have came across others like my self who can do the same things. There is no logical explaination between how I know the things I know. However, I cannot actually proove I can do it. The reason behind it all is because its only supposed to be used freely and wisly intead of for foolish reasons like to just proove that its there. I still suggest you take the test that I posted. Psychiatry might help. There's more than one person who suffers from schizophrenia. Yes but then how can you explain the stuff that I know about other people when I have never met them before? Things that I just say and ask and they end up saying that I'am correct about it. The expression on their faces is like...weird. Its also like the whole magick thing to, you can't explain that yet thousands of people do it. Are you gonna tell them thats just in their head to? I don't think so.
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Posted: Sat Jun 03, 2006 9:16 pm
Celtic Mystick Lethkhar Celtic Mystick Lethkhar Celtic Mystick Okay, I suppose but thats a different kind to. Others wouldn't say that, they would say its just in my head. I say chances are that it's in your head. However, I do accept the possibility that you may very well be speaking the truth, and that only you can see these things. I would say it's highly likely that you either: 1.Are on drugs. OR 2.You suffer from paranoid schizophrenia, sort of like John Nash. Joh Nash claimed that he lived on an "ultralogical plane", sort of like you do. Brilliant man. Mad, but brilliant. The line between them is often blurred. No, I'm not on drugs. Now the second thing is that the doctors think I'am nuts but um I know I'am not. I have came across others like my self who can do the same things. There is no logical explaination between how I know the things I know. However, I cannot actually proove I can do it. The reason behind it all is because its only supposed to be used freely and wisly intead of for foolish reasons like to just proove that its there. I still suggest you take the test that I posted. Psychiatry might help. There's more than one person who suffers from schizophrenia. Yes but then how can you explain the stuff that I know about other people when I have never met them before? Things that I just say and ask and they end up saying that I'am correct about it. The expression on their faces is like...weird. Its also like the whole magick thing to, you can't explain that yet thousands of people do it. Are you gonna tell them thats just in their head to? I don't think so. I've never seen "magick" done, and you have yet to display these "powers". In fact, I believe that thinking that you have special powers is part of schizophrenia. I'm not saying you're insane, just maybe unstable. This can ruin peoples' lives, and I highly suggest you at least seek a psychiatrist and have them determine whether you're unstable or not. They're the experts.
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Posted: Sat Jun 03, 2006 9:26 pm
For your information I have seen tons of them all my life. No amount of medication helps me get better. I don't even like going there because I really don't think I have a problem. What really makes me that way is when people tell me its not real when I know damn well it is. Unlike most people I listen to nature, I feel it. I remember one time my dad was cutting a branch off a tree, I suddenly got this huge pain in my chest. It was like someone stabbed me. Then there are the times with the animals I talk to. How do I know what they want? There is explaination for it. You can't tell me its not real when I know it is. You don't know how I feel, your not in my head so how do you know? Yes, there are cases where people do, do things because they think something told them to. However, I have never done anything to harm my self or others. You don't live where I do, you don't know me personally. So there for you have no evidence that I have this or should suggest that I need to go see a doctor. You have no right. You think you know everything about the mind, when you obvouisly don't. If they knew everything then they would know what the part of the brain does on the right side just above the ear. They don't know what that does, so how do you know its not from that. Or how do you know these things don't come from the body, but from the energy that surrounds us all. You have no right to judge me, only I have that right. There is nothing else to discuss here.
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Posted: Sat Jun 03, 2006 9:38 pm
Celtic Mystick For your information I have seen tons of them all my life. No amount of medication helps me get better. I don't even like going there because I really don't think I have a problem. What really makes me that way is when people tell me its not real when I know damn well it is. Unlike most people I listen to nature, I feel it. I remember one time my dad was cutting a branch off a tree, I suddenly got this huge pain in my chest. It was like someone stabbed me. I get pains in my chest every once and awhile. Your heart works very hard. John Nash knew that what he saw was real, until he started seeing these things in the presence of other people. That was when he realised something was wrong. I strongly suggest you watch "A Beautiful Mind". It's a touching movie about John Nash, and may help you understand yourself a bit better. I know it changed my persepective. Quote: Then there are the times with the animals I talk to. How do I know what they want? There is explaination for it. You can't tell me its not real when I know it is. Animals want to live and reproduce. I win. Does that make me spiritual? Quote: You don't know how I feel, your not in my head so how do you know? Yes, there are cases where people do, do things because they think something told them to. However, I have never done anything to harm my self or others. Yet. Yet again, I strongly suggest watching "A Beautiful Mind". Quote: You don't live where I do, you don't know me personally. So there for you have no evidence that I have this or should suggest that I need to go see a doctor. You have no right. You think you know everything about the mind, when you obvouisly don't. I never said I knew everything about the mind. I was simply pointing out that seeing things that other people don't see is generally a sign of schizophrenia. It could be real, but chances are it isn't. Of course, you could suffer from sleep depriviation. That also causes hallucination. Quote: If they knew everything then they would know what the part of the brain does on the right side just above the ear. They don't know what that does, so how do you know its not from that. What's not from that? Schizophrenia? Quote: Or how do you know these things don't come from the body, but from the energy that surrounds us all. You have no right to judge me, only I have that right. things? Unicorns? You can see energy, you know. Electrons en masse are visible to the naked eye. You'd think other people would see them. Quote: There is nothing else to discuss here. Oh, but I think there is. I'm sorry if you feel attacked or insulted, but schizophrenia is not uncommon. They have found out what part of the brain causes it. If it's to the point where doctors say that you're insane, it's only a matter of time before you hurt yourself or others. Have you ever seen these things in the presence of other people? If so, did they see them?
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Posted: Sat Jun 03, 2006 9:47 pm
This has become over the top of a discussion and is becoming a harrassment issue. I don't take to that lightly, I suggest you stop now or you will be reported for harrassment.
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Posted: Sat Jun 03, 2006 9:50 pm
Celtic Mystick This has become over the top of a discussion and is becoming a harrassment issue. I don't take to that lightly, I suggest you stop now or you will be reported for harrassment. I don't mean to harrass you. I'm simply saying that I'm sick of you talking about how you see pheonixes in your backyard and then naturally assuming that science and medicine is bullshit. You have not told me to stop, and with all honesty I have not meant to offend you at all. Could you please explain to me how I did so?
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Posted: Sat Jun 03, 2006 10:07 pm
Lethkhar Celtic Mystick This has become over the top of a discussion and is becoming a harrassment issue. I don't take to that lightly, I suggest you stop now or you will be reported for harrassment. I don't mean to harrass you. I'm simply saying that I'm sick of you talking about how you see pheonixes in your backyard and then naturally assuming that science and medicine is bullshit. You have not told me to stop, and with all honesty I have not meant to offend you at all. Could you please explain to me how I did so? By telling me that I'am wrong and you are right. Don't say that you didn't do it because there are posts that are saying other wise. Its one thing when we are discussing religion or another form of belief but now you are crossing the line into my personal life of work. If you don't like what I post then don't read it. I will answer one question though. When you asked about if I have seen things in front of other people and if they seen them, yes they have seen them. See, also I told you to stop by saying that there was nothing left to discuss, which indicated I didn't want to carry on a distructive conversation. Now, this also says that I told you to stop twice already. You THINK what I see is not real because you your self cannot see it. Just because you can't see it does NOT mean it isn't real. If you walked up to a person like my self that had the same beliefs as I and was having a conversation about it to, I don't think you would want to harrass them like you have me. Those type of people don't put up with those things. Now, it all deals with spirituality, you can't proove that spirituality is not there. You THINK this is what is wrong, but you can't say its fact because there is evidence that its true. I have put up with people like you all my life, even through childhood and thats mostly the reason why I didn't come out of my room or talk to my parents about it. Its because I was afraid s**t like this would happen. Well you know what I'm sick of hidding it and if thats what you wanna believe about me then fine I don't give a s**t about it because its your opinion. If your so open minded then go out there and actually read a spiritual book for once to gain views on other people. The things that I do in my life are none of your business. I never asked for your opinion. If I asked for it then I would have said "What do you think?" However I did not say that so be quiet. Its okay to speak your mind, but not when it involves putting a person down which is exactly what you did to me. You may not of intended to but you did. You need to actually think before you act upon something. I post my things in this guild because I know there are people accepting here so thats why I post them in here. I did not post them to get harrassed. I did it to find out if others have experanced the same thing. You honestly don't know the first thing about you. You could say the same thing about me. You don't ask me any personal questions like I have, you just assume I'm some crazy nut. Don't say you didn't say it either because posts suggest otherwise. By telling me I have a desease is insulting me. You say your open but I don't believe so because if you were you wouldn't say such things as you have. However, I cannot dislike you for this insident, for I love everyone uncondinionally. Be warned, if you cross my path you feel my wrath. What I believe and say is part of my every day life, if you don't like it then don't respond. If you don't like me then you shouldn't talk to me. I have been dealing with emotions and all different people since I was a child, I watched people closely. I have been a wiccan for 5 years and after this year will be six, so I think I know what I'am talking about when it comes to beliefs and spirituality. I spent all my life trying to figure out me to the way I'am now and you will NOT distroy that.
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