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Kit-fallen

PostPosted: Wed Apr 19, 2006 11:20 pm


LoBo_23
I know... but I swear...
I've known him for less than a week and he's explained what otherkin I could be exactly, wolf/cyote... I have a wolf personality, but I like keping to myself, like cyote...
I'll just have to study awakenings until mine comes...

i wouldn't think personality traits alone would qualify someone to be one thing and not another. and if i'm not mistaken, wolves are very social creatures, while coyotes aren't totally cut off either.

granted there are people who claim to be able to sense otherkin's auras (this ties in with the theory otherkin auras are different somehow), however, they should know that it's best to let the person figure out things themselves, instead of telling them. people are creatures of suggestion: when someone suggests something to you, even if you know it isn't true, you will find yourself working in accordance to that suggestion.

it's dangerous for otherkin to be even suggested one thing or another, because then it'll be stuck in your head and think it's true. people can go for years on a false statement like that simply because of a suggestion, before finally being able to figure out the truth. there's also an issue with people who believe that some otherkin are not meant to find out they're otherkin for various reasons and shouldn't be pressed into discovering such or bad things could happen to them. these general 'bad things' people mention in this theory is that it could cause too much stress or maybe complicate their life and turn it from what they originally set out to do. in conjuction with that theory is the one that some otherkin simply need time to figure things out on their own and if pushed could stress them into rejection and denial of themselves.

...err.. yea, wh00t for lots of theories, just things to keep in mind, not solid fact.
PostPosted: Thu Apr 20, 2006 2:10 am


Kit-fallen
LoBo_23
I know... but I swear...
I've known him for less than a week and he's explained what otherkin I could be exactly, wolf/cyote... I have a wolf personality, but I like keping to myself, like cyote...
I'll just have to study awakenings until mine comes...

i wouldn't think personality traits alone would qualify someone to be one thing and not another. and if i'm not mistaken, wolves are very social creatures, while coyotes aren't totally cut off either.

granted there are people who claim to be able to sense otherkin's auras (this ties in with the theory otherkin auras are different somehow), however, they should know that it's best to let the person figure out things themselves, instead of telling them. people are creatures of suggestion: when someone suggests something to you, even if you know it isn't true, you will find yourself working in accordance to that suggestion.

it's dangerous for otherkin to be even suggested one thing or another, because then it'll be stuck in your head and think it's true. people can go for years on a false statement like that simply because of a suggestion, before finally being able to figure out the truth. there's also an issue with people who believe that some otherkin are not meant to find out they're otherkin for various reasons and shouldn't be pressed into discovering such or bad things could happen to them. these general 'bad things' people mention in this theory is that it could cause too much stress or maybe complicate their life and turn it from what they originally set out to do. in conjuction with that theory is the one that some otherkin simply need time to figure things out on their own and if pushed could stress them into rejection and denial of themselves.

...err.. yea, wh00t for lots of theories, just things to keep in mind, not solid fact.

yeah....yeah...yeah... Shut up and listen! >throws biscatti<
Coyotes are only found in North America and some areas of Central America. They may occasionally assemble in small packs, but normally hunt alone. Coyotes live an average of about 6 years. The word - Wikipedia

I don't see how it could in any way cause me stress since alex telling me I'm part wolf has been the only time I've went through a whole day smiling... for as long as I can remember................

ahem! I'm going to be quiet about this until I learn the Wolf Wind Technique, that will prove once and for all whether I am, or am not part wolf. The "Wolf Wind" jutsu is a martial arts move that's very powerful and can only be used by wolf otherkin and if one mistake is made you'll gain a curse that is passed on from generation to generation that gives you a painful cancer that slowly and painfully kills you.... alex's grandpa died from it the day alex was born, he says....
So lets hope I'm wolf mrgreen if not I'm gonna die... sweatdrop
I've already learned wolf claw... so it won't be too long........ neutral

well... let's all forget I said anything until I figure out what I am...

stupidkid23



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 20, 2006 10:57 am


LoBo_23

yeah... yagi's smart, that's why I invited her mrgreen
almost comparable to bookgirl... ALMOST


rofl You think way too much of me, my Loco Lobo...
PostPosted: Thu Apr 20, 2006 1:36 pm


LoBo_23
yeah....yeah...yeah... Shut up and listen! >throws biscatti<
Coyotes are only found in North America and some areas of Central America. They may occasionally assemble in small packs, but normally hunt alone. Coyotes live an average of about 6 years. The word - Wikipedia

I don't see how it could in any way cause me stress since alex telling me I'm part wolf has been the only time I've went through a whole day smiling... for as long as I can remember................

ahem! I'm going to be quiet about this until I learn the Wolf Wind Technique, that will prove once and for all whether I am, or am not part wolf. The "Wolf Wind" jutsu is a martial arts move that's very powerful and can only be used by wolf otherkin and if one mistake is made you'll gain a curse that is passed on from generation to generation that gives you a painful cancer that slowly and painfully kills you.... alex's grandpa died from it the day alex was born, he says....
So lets hope I'm wolf mrgreen if not I'm gonna die... sweatdrop
I've already learned wolf claw... so it won't be too long........ neutral

well... let's all forget I said anything until I figure out what I am...


i only said they weren't totally cut off. hunting alone doesn't mean they're alone all the time. *shrugs* feral cats have banded together in forests in a pack-like nature. feral cats don't hunt together but are for the most part lone hunters, yet these cats also are in a sort of group, which would mean they are socialable with one another and not simply completely lone, withdrawn beings.

stress is one thing that -could- happen sure, but it's not the only thing possible. for example.. what you're doing now. a test that shows that your are one or that you're going to die very painfully, that doesn't sound like the best for your health and judgement, regardless of whether you are or not. but then again, i'm just not one for be-all end-alls, but maybe you approve of them, which would be simply differing opinions.

also there is the chance you could end up not diving as deeply into your otherkin-ness when told as apposed to if you had to figure it out yourself, and so sort of cheating yourself out of the true true self in you for a quickie version of your true self. which would hurt you in the long run.

again, this is all theory.

Kit-fallen


stupidkid23

PostPosted: Thu Apr 20, 2006 6:51 pm


Kit-fallen
LoBo_23
yeah....yeah...yeah... Shut up and listen! >throws biscatti<
Coyotes are only found in North America and some areas of Central America. They may occasionally assemble in small packs, but normally hunt alone. Coyotes live an average of about 6 years. The word - Wikipedia

I don't see how it could in any way cause me stress since alex telling me I'm part wolf has been the only time I've went through a whole day smiling... for as long as I can remember................

ahem! I'm going to be quiet about this until I learn the Wolf Wind Technique, that will prove once and for all whether I am, or am not part wolf. The "Wolf Wind" jutsu is a martial arts move that's very powerful and can only be used by wolf otherkin and if one mistake is made you'll gain a curse that is passed on from generation to generation that gives you a painful cancer that slowly and painfully kills you.... alex's grandpa died from it the day alex was born, he says....
So lets hope I'm wolf mrgreen if not I'm gonna die... sweatdrop
I've already learned wolf claw... so it won't be too long........ neutral

well... let's all forget I said anything until I figure out what I am...


i only said they weren't totally cut off. hunting alone doesn't mean they're alone all the time. *shrugs* feral cats have banded together in forests in a pack-like nature. feral cats don't hunt together but are for the most part lone hunters, yet these cats also are in a sort of group, which would mean they are socialable with one another and not simply completely lone, withdrawn beings.

stress is one thing that -could- happen sure, but it's not the only thing possible. for example.. what you're doing now. a test that shows that your are one or that you're going to die very painfully, that doesn't sound like the best for your health and judgement, regardless of whether you are or not. but then again, i'm just not one for be-all end-alls, but maybe you approve of them, which would be simply differing opinions.

also there is the chance you could end up not diving as deeply into your otherkin-ness when told as apposed to if you had to figure it out yourself, and so sort of cheating yourself out of the true true self in you for a quickie version of your true self. which would hurt you in the long run.

again, this is all theory.

I didn't really put that it very well spoken words because it was 4o'clock int he morning....
here's what I mean
"I hate humans and I'm a dedicated martial artist/wtich/psion/musician/alchemist and I am willing to sacrifice my life for my work and my art." I would honestly rather die then be human stare no offense to humans it's just.... I don't exactly fit into human nature.... stare
PostPosted: Thu Apr 20, 2006 8:28 pm


LoBo_23
Kit-fallen
LoBo_23
yeah....yeah...yeah... Shut up and listen! >throws biscatti<
Coyotes are only found in North America and some areas of Central America. They may occasionally assemble in small packs, but normally hunt alone. Coyotes live an average of about 6 years. The word - Wikipedia

I don't see how it could in any way cause me stress since alex telling me I'm part wolf has been the only time I've went through a whole day smiling... for as long as I can remember................

ahem! I'm going to be quiet about this until I learn the Wolf Wind Technique, that will prove once and for all whether I am, or am not part wolf. The "Wolf Wind" jutsu is a martial arts move that's very powerful and can only be used by wolf otherkin and if one mistake is made you'll gain a curse that is passed on from generation to generation that gives you a painful cancer that slowly and painfully kills you.... alex's grandpa died from it the day alex was born, he says....
So lets hope I'm wolf mrgreen if not I'm gonna die... sweatdrop
I've already learned wolf claw... so it won't be too long........ neutral

well... let's all forget I said anything until I figure out what I am...


i only said they weren't totally cut off. hunting alone doesn't mean they're alone all the time. *shrugs* feral cats have banded together in forests in a pack-like nature. feral cats don't hunt together but are for the most part lone hunters, yet these cats also are in a sort of group, which would mean they are socialable with one another and not simply completely lone, withdrawn beings.

stress is one thing that -could- happen sure, but it's not the only thing possible. for example.. what you're doing now. a test that shows that your are one or that you're going to die very painfully, that doesn't sound like the best for your health and judgement, regardless of whether you are or not. but then again, i'm just not one for be-all end-alls, but maybe you approve of them, which would be simply differing opinions.

also there is the chance you could end up not diving as deeply into your otherkin-ness when told as apposed to if you had to figure it out yourself, and so sort of cheating yourself out of the true true self in you for a quickie version of your true self. which would hurt you in the long run.

again, this is all theory.

I didn't really put that it very well spoken words because it was 4o'clock int he morning....
here's what I mean
"I hate humans and I'm a dedicated martial artist/wtich/psion/musician/alchemist and I am willing to sacrifice my life for my work and my art." I would honestly rather die then be human stare no offense to humans it's just.... I don't exactly fit into human nature.... stare
Why hate humanity? All humans are diffrent so that would mean you hate everyone just because they are humans... Well anyways the jitsu thing I am hesitent to believe because I haven't seen anything on any Otherkin site about it nor have I heard of such a thing telling you you are otherkin. The only way to tell is through an (or several) awakenings. Isn't it also possible the person's grandfather died because the cancer cells became active. It is very hard to believe, but not unlikely. Also even if you are otherkin you are STILL human, just with a non-human soul (well besides vampires to some degree). It is better accept yourself for who you are then try to be something you arn't. (Sorry if it sounded mean, not trying to.)

cowwwcowww


stupidkid23

PostPosted: Thu Apr 20, 2006 8:53 pm


cowwwcowww
LoBo_23
Kit-fallen
LoBo_23
yeah....yeah...yeah... Shut up and listen! >throws biscatti<
Coyotes are only found in North America and some areas of Central America. They may occasionally assemble in small packs, but normally hunt alone. Coyotes live an average of about 6 years. The word - Wikipedia

I don't see how it could in any way cause me stress since alex telling me I'm part wolf has been the only time I've went through a whole day smiling... for as long as I can remember................

ahem! I'm going to be quiet about this until I learn the Wolf Wind Technique, that will prove once and for all whether I am, or am not part wolf. The "Wolf Wind" jutsu is a martial arts move that's very powerful and can only be used by wolf otherkin and if one mistake is made you'll gain a curse that is passed on from generation to generation that gives you a painful cancer that slowly and painfully kills you.... alex's grandpa died from it the day alex was born, he says....
So lets hope I'm wolf mrgreen if not I'm gonna die... sweatdrop
I've already learned wolf claw... so it won't be too long........ neutral

well... let's all forget I said anything until I figure out what I am...


i only said they weren't totally cut off. hunting alone doesn't mean they're alone all the time. *shrugs* feral cats have banded together in forests in a pack-like nature. feral cats don't hunt together but are for the most part lone hunters, yet these cats also are in a sort of group, which would mean they are socialable with one another and not simply completely lone, withdrawn beings.

stress is one thing that -could- happen sure, but it's not the only thing possible. for example.. what you're doing now. a test that shows that your are one or that you're going to die very painfully, that doesn't sound like the best for your health and judgement, regardless of whether you are or not. but then again, i'm just not one for be-all end-alls, but maybe you approve of them, which would be simply differing opinions.

also there is the chance you could end up not diving as deeply into your otherkin-ness when told as apposed to if you had to figure it out yourself, and so sort of cheating yourself out of the true true self in you for a quickie version of your true self. which would hurt you in the long run.

again, this is all theory.

I didn't really put that it very well spoken words because it was 4o'clock int he morning....
here's what I mean
"I hate humans and I'm a dedicated martial artist/wtich/psion/musician/alchemist and I am willing to sacrifice my life for my work and my art." I would honestly rather die then be human stare no offense to humans it's just.... I don't exactly fit into human nature.... stare
Why hate humanity? All humans are diffrent so that would mean you hate everyone just because they are humans... Well anyways the jitsu thing I am hesitent to believe because I haven't seen anything on any Otherkin site about it nor have I heard of such a thing telling you you are otherkin. The only way to tell is through an (or several) awakenings. Isn't it also possible the person's grandfather died because the cancer cells became active. It is very hard to believe, but not unlikely. Also even if you are otherkin you are STILL human, just with a non-human soul (well besides vampires to some degree). It is better accept yourself for who you are then try to be something you arn't. (Sorry if it sounded mean, not trying to.)

I've hated myself til' the day I found out there's a possibility I'm not human stare
the destruction, the careless acts... the stupid wars... battles... killings... the poor people who have to eat in dumpsters... and only the bad but strong survive... and then the imbred... ugh.. I seriously want to vomit right now... here's my messege to humanity "~I don't blame you, for being you, but you can't blame me for hating it~"
The jutsu isn't an otherkin thing, it's a ninja thing, a martial arts technique... and how would it be a coincidince his grandfather died the day he was born and also he tried removing it once and it spread a little and hurts like...ehh...

y'know.. screw it..
I give up...
everything I try to say in the field of the supernatural seems to in one way or another end up in some debate of how it's almost impossible for what I'm saying to be true... no one beleives me... and like I say "don't explain, your enemies don't beleive you and your friends don't wanna hear it anyways"
>walks off mumbling and ranting to my self while waving my arms around<
PostPosted: Thu Apr 20, 2006 9:34 pm


LoBo_23
cowwwcowww
LoBo_23
Kit-fallen
LoBo_23
yeah....yeah...yeah... Shut up and listen! >throws biscatti<
Coyotes are only found in North America and some areas of Central America. They may occasionally assemble in small packs, but normally hunt alone. Coyotes live an average of about 6 years. The word - Wikipedia

I don't see how it could in any way cause me stress since alex telling me I'm part wolf has been the only time I've went through a whole day smiling... for as long as I can remember................

ahem! I'm going to be quiet about this until I learn the Wolf Wind Technique, that will prove once and for all whether I am, or am not part wolf. The "Wolf Wind" jutsu is a martial arts move that's very powerful and can only be used by wolf otherkin and if one mistake is made you'll gain a curse that is passed on from generation to generation that gives you a painful cancer that slowly and painfully kills you.... alex's grandpa died from it the day alex was born, he says....
So lets hope I'm wolf mrgreen if not I'm gonna die... sweatdrop
I've already learned wolf claw... so it won't be too long........ neutral

well... let's all forget I said anything until I figure out what I am...


i only said they weren't totally cut off. hunting alone doesn't mean they're alone all the time. *shrugs* feral cats have banded together in forests in a pack-like nature. feral cats don't hunt together but are for the most part lone hunters, yet these cats also are in a sort of group, which would mean they are socialable with one another and not simply completely lone, withdrawn beings.

stress is one thing that -could- happen sure, but it's not the only thing possible. for example.. what you're doing now. a test that shows that your are one or that you're going to die very painfully, that doesn't sound like the best for your health and judgement, regardless of whether you are or not. but then again, i'm just not one for be-all end-alls, but maybe you approve of them, which would be simply differing opinions.

also there is the chance you could end up not diving as deeply into your otherkin-ness when told as apposed to if you had to figure it out yourself, and so sort of cheating yourself out of the true true self in you for a quickie version of your true self. which would hurt you in the long run.

again, this is all theory.

I didn't really put that it very well spoken words because it was 4o'clock int he morning....
here's what I mean
"I hate humans and I'm a dedicated martial artist/wtich/psion/musician/alchemist and I am willing to sacrifice my life for my work and my art." I would honestly rather die then be human stare no offense to humans it's just.... I don't exactly fit into human nature.... stare
Why hate humanity? All humans are diffrent so that would mean you hate everyone just because they are humans... Well anyways the jitsu thing I am hesitent to believe because I haven't seen anything on any Otherkin site about it nor have I heard of such a thing telling you you are otherkin. The only way to tell is through an (or several) awakenings. Isn't it also possible the person's grandfather died because the cancer cells became active. It is very hard to believe, but not unlikely. Also even if you are otherkin you are STILL human, just with a non-human soul (well besides vampires to some degree). It is better accept yourself for who you are then try to be something you arn't. (Sorry if it sounded mean, not trying to.)

I've hated myself til' the day I found out there's a possibility I'm not human stare
the destruction, the careless acts... the stupid wars... battles... killings... the poor people who have to eat in dumpsters... and only the bad but strong survive... and then the imbred... ugh.. I seriously want to vomit right now... here's my messege to humanity "~I don't blame you, for being you, but you can't blame me for hating it~"
The jutsu isn't an otherkin thing, it's a ninja thing, a martial arts technique... and how would it be a coincidince his grandfather died the day he was born and also he tried removing it once and it spread a little and hurts like...ehh...

y'know.. screw it..
I give up...
everything I try to say in the field of the supernatural seems to in one way or another end up in some debate of how it's almost impossible for what I'm saying to be true... no one beleives me... and like I say "don't explain, your enemies don't beleive you and your friends don't wanna hear it anyways"
>walks off mumbling and ranting to my self while waving my arms around<
It could be a coincedence. Don't just give up, but try thinking logicaly and wait. You seem to be trying to rush and you can't rush. It isn't that people don't believe you, it is just usualy natural to try and find some logic to things.

Also, even if you are otherkin. You will still be human and need human needs. Otherkin are just the same as humans just with a diffrent soul. Also the "~I don't blame you, for being you, but you can't blame me for hating it~" what do you want people act like then? If you don't want people being themselves then what do you want them to be? It also is in human nature to start wars and so forth, because we are animals ourselves. And alot of people who "eat from trash cans" refuse to work because they are lazy, but there are some who can't get a job because of the HORRIBLE job market in America these days and some people just can't afford to have some place to sleep because of inflation. Thanks to George W. Bush this has manily happened, if he wasn't president then we probably would be better off. Just my political views. "You can't hate humity because of one or a several people, you can only hate it if all people are like this." I don't hate humity for I am human for the most part. Just because the acts of some people have made you hate humity you can't also hate the people that try to help.

cowwwcowww


Kit-fallen

PostPosted: Fri Apr 21, 2006 3:00 pm


LoBo_23

I've hated myself til' the day I found out there's a possibility I'm not human stare
the destruction, the careless acts... the stupid wars... battles... killings... the poor people who have to eat in dumpsters... and only the bad but strong survive... and then the imbred... ugh.. I seriously want to vomit right now... here's my messege to humanity "~I don't blame you, for being you, but you can't blame me for hating it~"
The jutsu isn't an otherkin thing, it's a ninja thing, a martial arts technique... and how would it be a coincidince his grandfather died the day he was born and also he tried removing it once and it spread a little and hurts like...ehh...

y'know.. screw it..
I give up...
everything I try to say in the field of the supernatural seems to in one way or another end up in some debate of how it's almost impossible for what I'm saying to be true... no one beleives me... and like I say "don't explain, your enemies don't beleive you and your friends don't wanna hear it anyways"
>walks off mumbling and ranting to my self while waving my arms around<


you still are human even if you happen to have a wolf/coyote soul or whatever (depending on what you believe)... i'm not even bothering with the ninjutus and curse, but even if i don't believe it, i believe it has an impact on you simply by the fact you believe it. basically, i'm willing to believe that you believe it, and that's what counts.

the idea i'm trying to get to is that no matter if you're otherkin or not, it's not healthy, literally or emotionally to hate your body so much you'd kill it over a theory.

however, don't think wolves and coyotes are all nice and wonderful either. they have wars of a sort, they let their own waste away by the side, only the strong pups survive and that alone doesn't mean they're 'good' in the sense you're getting at, and not everything they do is out of needing to survive. wolves practice revenge just the same as humans do. it's not just humans that are bloody insane murderers, all animals have the potential to be. humans are animals after all.. where did you think we got it from?

all i say is that you should probably have a bit more reason to outright hate an entire species. or are you giving into the ever popular 'specie-ism' against humans? it's perfectly fine to me to hate a species, although you'd better have better reasons then what you have now. i admit that i don't like humanity too much, because i think our design is just badly developed, we're already doomed to kill ourselves. however, there are good things about being human.. like music.. or hands.. hands are nice.. especially since my past life as a cat didn't have hands, and so didn't have access to keyboards or the multitude of information on the web to satisfy my curiosus nature.


and that's a horrid way to end a debate. if you can't defend yourself then you shouldn't have brought it up. i'm also, not debating whether what you say is true or not, but whether or not you're going about finding yourself in a healthy way. i'm perfectly willing to agree with you if you're willing to give me reason to be as such. giving up, throwing your arms in the air, and telling us you hate all of humanity, isn't showing me reason enough to even take you more serious then any angsting teenager that claims they 'hate humanity' and 'don't care if they die', just because it's now 'cool' to think that way, and since i'm a teenager myself, i'm rather disappointed.
PostPosted: Fri Apr 21, 2006 8:07 pm


Kit-fallen
LoBo_23

I've hated myself til' the day I found out there's a possibility I'm not human stare
the destruction, the careless acts... the stupid wars... battles... killings... the poor people who have to eat in dumpsters... and only the bad but strong survive... and then the imbred... ugh.. I seriously want to vomit right now... here's my messege to humanity "~I don't blame you, for being you, but you can't blame me for hating it~"
The jutsu isn't an otherkin thing, it's a ninja thing, a martial arts technique... and how would it be a coincidince his grandfather died the day he was born and also he tried removing it once and it spread a little and hurts like...ehh...

y'know.. screw it..
I give up...
everything I try to say in the field of the supernatural seems to in one way or another end up in some debate of how it's almost impossible for what I'm saying to be true... no one beleives me... and like I say "don't explain, your enemies don't beleive you and your friends don't wanna hear it anyways"
>walks off mumbling and ranting to my self while waving my arms around<


you still are human even if you happen to have a wolf/coyote soul or whatever (depending on what you believe)... i'm not even bothering with the ninjutus and curse, but even if i don't believe it, i believe it has an impact on you simply by the fact you believe it. basically, i'm willing to believe that you believe it, and that's what counts.

the idea i'm trying to get to is that no matter if you're otherkin or not, it's not healthy, literally or emotionally to hate your body so much you'd kill it over a theory.

however, don't think wolves and coyotes are all nice and wonderful either. they have wars of a sort, they let their own waste away by the side, only the strong pups survive and that alone doesn't mean they're 'good' in the sense you're getting at, and not everything they do is out of needing to survive. wolves practice revenge just the same as humans do. it's not just humans that are bloody insane murderers, all animals have the potential to be. humans are animals after all.. where did you think we got it from?

all i say is that you should probably have a bit more reason to outright hate an entire species. or are you giving into the ever popular 'specie-ism' against humans? it's perfectly fine to me to hate a species, although you'd better have better reasons then what you have now. i admit that i don't like humanity too much, because i think our design is just badly developed, we're already doomed to kill ourselves. however, there are good things about being human.. like music.. or hands.. hands are nice.. especially since my past life as a cat didn't have hands, and so didn't have access to keyboards or the multitude of information on the web to satisfy my curiosus nature.


and that's a horrid way to end a debate. if you can't defend yourself then you shouldn't have brought it up. i'm also, not debating whether what you say is true or not, but whether or not you're going about finding yourself in a healthy way. i'm perfectly willing to agree with you if you're willing to give me reason to be as such. giving up, throwing your arms in the air, and telling us you hate all of humanity, isn't showing me reason enough to even take you more serious then any angsting teenager that claims they 'hate humanity' and 'don't care if they die', just because it's now 'cool' to think that way, and since i'm a teenager myself, i'm rather disappointed.
revenge is fine, only the strong should survive, but look at humanity, it's so messed up because the weak minded people get togethe rin a mob and do a mindless thing, that's stupid, violent and iresponsible. I things I hate are the pointless killings and disrespect to nature... I admit I'll love and respect any human that can respect nature and not be a hipocritical a**-hole who either says "I lvoe jesus" and shoots a deer when the bible states "thou shalt not kill" or some hippie saying "let's all be natural like me!" and because they're so mal-nurished they take a vitamin that was made UN-NATURALLY by scientists.
I don't hate m body I just don't care what happens to it, it's a tool, in-which I do take care of, I exersize and work my mind, I still hate all the damned.... stare nevermind...
I-AM-A-MARTIAL-ARTIST I am willing to learn any martial art move that is useful in battle, and the wolf wind is intesely strong, because I'm not good enough just the energy I'd have to use would KILL ME not that "psi burnout" people experience... so I'm going to work until I reach that goal, even if it does kill me, my soul won't die... my body will...

I'm not saying any of this to be "kool" I can't stand that term, nor teenager chit chat... people piss me off becuase no one I know really thinks... even me.. just like in the post... I've blurted rambling nonsense over a pointless subject which should only involve myself...

that's right... I did a stupid thing, I'm sorry, it's in the past... reminisce if you must I'll take it in for learning experience... stare


and cowww.. I'm not rushing anything, I never knew I could be otherkin, I always thaught it would be nice to be something other than what I am... I never knew it was possible and, sorry to say... and admit it... I've thaught of suicide more than once in the past.. but I'm not going to waist the chance I have now to learn... I'm trying to discover what I was so I can move foreward, you cannot move down a road until you "A: know what direction you're going and B: know where you are and what's behind you."
yes I get a bit angry at times.. I'm trying to fix that... yes I hate more thhings than I should.. I'm trying to fix that too... but a true martial artist, psion, alchemist w/e know that "any experience can be used as a Learning experience (training for martial artists) " that meens I need to learn from a person that lives many miles away and I most likely would have never met if it weren't for the fluke of him wearing his pet pinecone phil on his head for my best gaian friend to meet him and yell at him for some reason...... (no I'm not making this up they actually met like that.)
now he's training me in ninjitsu... and with that I can finally semi-master psi and magick.

the lesson to be learned?
"don't assume you know someone from one conversation"
(stupid humans xd )

stupidkid23


cowwwcowww

PostPosted: Fri Apr 21, 2006 9:04 pm


Just a question are you learning Ninjitsu online?

Also about your "A: know what direction you're going and B: know where you are and what's behind you." You can't always know where you are going for if you did you wouldn't have a life for you wouldn't experience anything that you didn't already know about. Also you can't always tell what is behind you for the road of life over laps constantly and you can't always know where you are exactly that is what is fun in life the surprises and unknown outcome. You can't always be incontrol of your destiny, you just have to drift sometimes and let yourself flow with everything around you and not care where you are going as long as you learn from what you do. As long as you flow into life you will always know where you are, for you will be where you are suppose to be, even if where you are is no where.
PostPosted: Fri Apr 21, 2006 9:53 pm


cowwwcowww
Just a question are you learning Ninjitsu online?

Also about your "A: know what direction you're going and B: know where you are and what's behind you." You can't always know where you are going for if you did you wouldn't have a life for you wouldn't experience anything that you didn't already know about. Also you can't always tell what is behind you for the road of life over laps constantly and you can't always know where you are exactly that is what is fun in life the surprises and unknown outcome. You can't always be incontrol of your destiny, you just have to drift sometimes and let yourself flow with everything around you and not care where you are going as long as you learn from what you do. As long as you flow into life you will always know where you are, for you will be where you are suppose to be, even if where you are is no where.

>mutters to self "ack! I tried letting the conversation die and it begins again! gonk " as I pull out a knife and start stabbing away at it saying "die! die!" I then put the knife behind my back< oh..uhhh... sorry.. what were you saying? heh... sweatdrop

stupidkid23


cowwwcowww

PostPosted: Fri Apr 21, 2006 10:01 pm


LoBo_23
cowwwcowww
Just a question are you learning Ninjitsu online?

Also about your "A: know what direction you're going and B: know where you are and what's behind you." You can't always know where you are going for if you did you wouldn't have a life for you wouldn't experience anything that you didn't already know about. Also you can't always tell what is behind you for the road of life over laps constantly and you can't always know where you are exactly that is what is fun in life the surprises and unknown outcome. You can't always be incontrol of your destiny, you just have to drift sometimes and let yourself flow with everything around you and not care where you are going as long as you learn from what you do. As long as you flow into life you will always know where you are, for you will be where you are suppose to be, even if where you are is no where.

>mutters to self "ack! I tried letting the conversation die and it begins again! gonk " as I pull out a knife and start stabbing away at it saying "die! die!" I then put the knife behind my back< oh..uhhh... sorry.. what were you saying? heh... sweatdrop
You are the one that started it back up too, so I thought I would ask rofl .
PostPosted: Sat Apr 22, 2006 12:48 am


whoa, whoa, whoa...
I found an article...

Doubt and disbelief is anything that threatens to tear down a deeply rooted reality by the arrival of a new memory or way of thinking, triggered by an awakening. Sometimes doubt can hold us back from further walking the path that will lead us to more awakening experiences, and to some, a little bit of doubt is always an integral part of the maintenance of one's sanity. There is no standard here; it is different with each person. One of the biggest clues in the exploration of the otherkin self comes from one's likes and dislikes; same as when exploring past life memories. Exploring past life memories is one of the experimental processes through which one has the greatest chance regaining memories, regardless of whether its a solitary or group exploration. However, having a group to share thoughts and updated progressions with can often times be very beneficial to both the individual and the group.

where's MY support... someone trying to break down my sanity?

and...

In an awakening, the subject realizes through various forms of evidence that their soul is not solely (or at all) human. The subject goes through a period of personal re-evaluation of their lives. Sometimes a new consciousness develops, with new belief structures and thought patters from sometimes very old memories. Something triggers this 'awakening' as it is called.

First off its easy to see how we could coexist in a world with others who may or not be native to Earth. Mostly I'm speaking in terms of spirit. Otherkin are those who feel they are different than humans because they don't possess a human spirit, but one or many of another spiritual being; i.e. elves, dragons, angels, etc. More often than not, the idea of a person being otherkin can explain a lot of things about them, for instance, why they feel a certain way towards other people; why they may feel a pull towards a particular set of subjects of interest or towards a particular religious path. The majority of what you'll find in this article and series will be observances I've noted from matters that arise for various types of Otherkin, the sites that refer to them, and from my own experiences as an Otherkin.



and I'll take the otherkin survey...

therkin Survey
You might be Otherkin, If...v. 3.0

1. You miss a place, yet cannot explain where it is.
2. You find it very frustrating that you can't breathe under water or fly.
3. You have phantom body parts that you can feel move, and that sometimes become really annoying with clothes (fur, wings, claws..)
4. You have the occasional really annoying itch on your back, right where your wings would be.
5. You are always the first to hear something in the distance (approaching car, person, storm...)
6. You suffer more allergies than most folks or less allergies than normal folks (and have never been prone to illness)
7. You suffer allergies to metal, stones, certain herbs, or other substances not commonly considered allergenic.
8. You have naturally dilated pupils or see very well in the dark.
9. You have eyes with multiple or bright colours in them, or eyes that change colour.
10. The 'you' you see in the mirror and the physical shell experienced by other people are entirely different entities.
11. The 'you' you see in the mirror actually shifts between what others see and what you see.
12. You know, see, and feel a deeper depth and viewpoint of the cycle of life and death than many people do.
13. The woods, glens, etc. speak to you and call you to come join them.
14. You remember your dreams with more detail, clarity and relevance than your waking moments.
15. Dance, music, art, beauty are not luxuries, peripheral experiences or mere entertainment, but physical necessities.
16. Linear thought is a problem, and linear time is an even greater one.
17. You think trees or holes in the ground are great places to live.
18. You catch yourself referring to David Bowie as 'cousin'.
19. You on occasion try drawing fantasy characters that everyone else identifies as David Bowie.
20. No religion seems to fit you no matter which one you try, or there is a strong calling to a particular religion.
21. You feel better hiding in natural places when emotionally or otherwise upset.
22. You don't match your 'real' age in looks, thoughts, words, wisdom, etc.
23. The weather and your moods have more than a coincidental link.
24. You write such good stories cause they aren't stories...its all real.
25. You have an obsession with honor that most people just don't understand.
26. You've been in or almost caused an accident because you were distracted by the sunset, sunrise, rainbow, moon, stars, lightning, and/or interesting cloud formations.
27. You bore very easily.
28. As a child you always knew where to find the berries in the woods.
29. You are fascinated with language, linguistics, theology, anthropology, slang, subculture and the madness of crowds.
30. Weddings make you depressed and funerals elate you.
31. You see through spiritual charlatans like they were made of glass.
32. Your personality changes outright depending on the clothing you wear. That includes a mixed personality if you mix two kinds of clothing.
33. You always go for things in silver rather than gold, bronze, etc.
34. The human language just isn't enough to fully convey what you are trying to say. You feel telepathy, empathy, and visual sendings make up most of your language and you often tend to use these more than spoken words, much to the dismay of those around you.
35. Your friends and family have always thought of you as 'different'.
36. You never quite see things from the same point of view as your non'kin friends.
37. Your non'kin friends never quite get your sense of humor.
38. Non'kin think you are eccentric, very intelligent or crazy, but you think that you are normal and they are the ones who are odd.
39. Your friend's cat, who hates everyone including your friend, loves you.
40. People either love you or hate you and you cannot figure out why.
41. Animals and trees are better friends to you than most non'kin.
42. You attract the strangest people. They seem to congregate around you as if attracted by some pheromone only they can perceive.
43. You almost never play a human character in role-playing games.
44. People often ask you if you're on drugs.
45. Hospitals, most schools, government buildings, and large, impersonal corporations either depress you to the point of tears or trigger panic attacks.
46. Small children come up to you and hug you for no apparent reason.
47. Small children can tell you about your past lives.
48. You think nothing of adjusting your energy to a peaceful signature to calm down someone who's agitated.
49. Your dreams bleed over into the waking reality.
50. You catch glimpses of an alternate reality superimposed or side by side with waking reality. When you're half asleep and half awake, the worlds tend to blur and you can see numerous realities existing at once.
51. Your wishes affect waking reality in a tangible way.
52. There are too many synchronicities happening to pass them all off as coincidence.
53. Small children run up to you and point out the nice lady with pointy ears or the big furry man or the dragon.
54. You dream prophetically.
55. When really stressed/relaxed/magical you speak in a foreign unknown language, make animal noises, or start speaking in what sounds like gibberish to other people.
56. You've met someone you instantly knew from dreams you've been having since you were five.
57. You sense spirits residing within rocks, trees, waters, buildings, mechanical object,etc., and you converse with them regularly.
58. You didn't know that not everyone did lucid dreaming (astral projection, hands-on healing, aura sight, telepathy, precognition...) until you read about it.
59. You 'smell' what kind of mood the people around you are in.
60. Computers often malfunction, act up, or do a lot of unusual things in your presence, causing your coworkers to ask you to 'stand over there, please' and causing your company's resident computer tech many hours of heartache.
61. Sometimes when you see or meet a stranger you see a flash of their true nature without even trying.
62. You can alter time, manipulate the weather, conjure things or teleport by accident, etc. without ever having learned how nor understanding how these are possible.
63. When they unearth an ancient earth artifact that 'no one' knows about you not only find that you recognize it, but also that you had been telling your friends about it for the last few years.
64. You don't just dream, you go planet-hopping (or galaxy-hopping for that matter).
65. Time always does weird things around you.
66. You cannot wear watches or other timepieces on your person. If you do, they are rendered completely useless within days.
67. You can hear the stars singing.
68. You can't understand why people need all those props to do anything magical, when its so much simpler to just reach and change something. You're unable to grasp that there are people who can't feel magical flows, no matter how often you hear otherwise.
69. All of your best friends/lovers/etc. awaken to their Otherkin natures within a few months of meeting you.
70. You can't ever remember the color of someone's eyes, but you can describe their aura/astral form in detail.
71. You draw something that looks familiar but when you show it to a friend, he's white as a ghost because you've just revealed a part of his past.
72. You're more inclined to draw or write in an unknown language than to pay attention in class.
73. Ancient deities do what you tell them and you don't know why.
74. Ancient languages sound like music to your ears.

most of my results...

5 sometimes
12 defenitely
17.... sort of..
20 I had to find my own path sweatdrop
22 I look older act older and etc. older than I am...
25 heh.. sweatdrop
29 yep
33 wow! eek
34 would be true if I used telepathy...
35 I don't know about them but I'm defenitely diffrent..
36 defenitely
37 yes.... until I changed my sense of humro to better fit society stare
40 OMG!
41 I'd rather befriend a dog than most people, otherkin or not.
51 sort of ish.. not sure..
53 mm hmm
61 I can see who people are without even meeting them normally...
68 why the props?... psi is better stare

yeah... it's 2:45AM so I figured "why not... I'll do a chart and stuff" I'm trying to figure out how people awaken and how I can be put in that state of mind... and I've been told by an angelic a few ways so don't tell me it's not possible stare he was THE ANGEL "Zero" god's old right hand man... or angel... or so he says... angel or not he's very wise...

let's keeo this survey hm? it's interesting...

stupidkid23


Kit-fallen

PostPosted: Sat Apr 22, 2006 7:11 pm


Articles for Awakening

especially this one: Am I Otherkin?

i'm just going to say if you seriously believe an online quiz can help show you you're otherkin or not then you need to be smacked. neutral

and also, if you try to force an awakening you'll end up with either a rushed one or a false one. it doesn't like to be hurried along. just let it play out on itself... however hard that might be to wait paitently for it'll be worth it. your subconcious(/whatever you want to call it) knows if and when you'll be able to handle what it's holding, in the mean time read, listen, and ask questions.
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