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Did Fred... *Angel S5 spoilers*

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ayruh

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Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2005 3:45 pm

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sad Wesley's love for Fred was so complete and all-consuming that I think that even if he was in heaven, he wouldn't be truly happy unless she was there with him.

Thats so sad....not with Fred in heaven. Gosh. I wanna cry, crying

Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2005 10:52 am

nah i dont think they would've made angel that depressing. true tthey didnt want her back on the show but since illyria could still change into looking like fred, on some level, fred did exist.

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Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2005 3:54 pm

lol i dont knwo what to say. but i sort of agree with everyone. everything is posssible. but the first post said it the best. the first post described what could be.

Posted: Sun Sep 25, 2005 6:38 pm

Illyria

She can't return to you. Yet there are fragments. When her brain collapsed, electrical spasms channeled into my function system... memories.

This makes me think that Fred's soul wasn't destroyed. It was demolished. There were still peices of it, and though Illyria had some, the rest were somewhere else. Maybe heaven or simply scattered about. The peices that Illyria still had, combined with the memories, where what helped her maintain a Fred-like state.

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Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2005 1:39 pm

I think it's impossible to say really and is one of those things that is left up to the viewer to decide.

The concept of a soul in the Jossverse is very ill defined. I mean we don't know for sure that a soul is even what goes on to an afterlife. I mean we don't know for sure exactly what was brought back to Buffy when she was resurected. (her soul was definately part of it but it might not have been the only thing brought back.)

We know a soul is necessary to tell right from wrong but other than that we don't know alot.

There's also the fact as others have said that the doctor might not be the most reliable person to trust on the matter.