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 Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2010 6:13 pm
Shadows-shine mazuac Shadows-shine mazuac Shadows-shine Yeah, that's why I don't really watch the history channel that much because they don't report on history, they try to make up all these theories about what the prophesies in Revelations mean and how there are secret codes within the book that indicate who the the Anti-Christ is, what the seven seals on the book mean, what the seven churches are, etc. rolleyes As Christians, we will know what these things are and what they mean as they transpire, but it is not for us to sit here and conjure up all these theories and codes about them, otherwise we are distracted from being prepared for Christ's return. I will have to check it out. I am real cautious about watching stuff on the History about the Saviour, because the last show I watched about Him they were talking about His childhood and claimed that He pushed a kid off the roof, the kid died and Jesus resurrected the kid just to prove that He had that power...That to me struck a nerve and didn't sound like the Jesus that is described in the Bible. And if that claim the History Channel made was true about Christ murdering some one then Jesus wouldn't be the sinless Saviour. When is the show on? I didn't see it on last night. And I have no clue where they got the idea that Christ murdered some one. I didn't watch the show long enough to find out. I was too irritated to even investigate.
If it does ever come on, or you find it online, I would STRONGLY suggest you watch it! IT'S AMAZING! <3 hahaha! XD
And wow, that is crazy... History channel certainly likes to... make things strange.o-0; And yet, on the real face of jesus, they have a quite fantastic stance. O:
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Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2010 6:58 pm
I might google it or youtube it.
And yes, History channel does make some things pretty strange.
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Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2010 9:27 am
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Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2010 9:54 pm
GLiTCHiZ i happen to walk pass the tv set[wich my mom keeps on the christian channels 24/7], and see the words "Bible Code".
is there a Bible Code?  D: Late to this convo, I know, but from my Catholic teachings I can tell you that there was a code, at least from the Catholic academia perspective. The Book of Revelation, with its cryptic messages were theorized as letters and messages to different churches and people. Obviously, if you knew the code you knew what it meant, but it was originated for and from the persecuted Christians during the time of the Roman Empire. Not predicting how the end of the world would go. One of the few things I appreciated from Catholicism; don't take the bible literally.
Some food for thought:
Quote: We often think of prophecy as a prediction of the future, but the original Greek word, propheteia, means "speaking the mind of God." A prophecy may predict the future, or it may not (Matthew 26:65-68, 1 Timothy 4:14, Revelation 19:10, 22:7).
here is an example of a source
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This doesn't have to do with the bible, but here's an example of what I mean:
The symbol of the fish would be drawn to identify potential hidden Christians so that they could get together in safety and secrecy.
The Greek word for “fish” is ichthus, and each letter represented a word, namely: i (Iesous—Jesus), ch (Christos—Christ), th (theou—of God), u (huios—son), s (soter—savior). The fish thus became sort of a code word during times of persecution by which believers expressed the conviction: “I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God and my Savior.”
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Posted: Mon Sep 06, 2010 6:58 am
But that doesn't really prove that there are codes in the Bible. If there were codes in the Bible, it would become confusing and no one would understand the scriptures. There are some things within the scriptures that are supposed to be taken literally and there are other things that are metaphores and symbolism. The Fish illustration isn't mentioned in the Bible, it was just a symbol that early Christians used to communicate with eachother.
And I don't think prophecies are just used to tell of future events. A prophet is the mouthpiece of God, so when God speaks the prophet reveals what was said. Some times the revelation is recorded and some times it's not. The Bible says that all who have a testimony of Christ have the gift of prophecy, we all have the ability to receieve revelation from God, that is. And not all the time when we receive revelation are we predicting the future, some times it's guidance for that very moment we are in or some times it's for some thing we need to reflect on that happened in the past.
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Posted: Mon Sep 06, 2010 4:27 pm
Shadows-shine But that doesn't really prove that there are codes in the Bible. If there were codes in the Bible, it would become confusing and no one would understand the scriptures. There are some things within the scriptures that are supposed to be taken literally and there are other things that are metaphores and symbolism.
The Bible is probably the most misunderstood widely read book in the world. If you're talking about the basic definition of a codeQuote: a system used for brevity or secrecy of communication, in which arbitrarily chosen words, letters, or symbols are assigned definite meanings.
Then the book of Revelations would certainly qualify. It was addressed to persecuted Christians so that they could communicate to others without being discovered. But that's a Catholic point of view, so if you don't share it, then I completely understand. But I didn't state that the entire book of the bible was in some mystic mumbo-jumbo code. Just that the Book of Revelations is an ancient code.
For me, the way I was taught (from a Catholic academic level) is that Catholics don't interpret the bible literally, it's the context that's far more important.
Shadows-shine The Fish illustration isn't mentioned in the Bible, it was just a symbol that early Christians used to communicate with eachother.
Shadows-shine A prophet is the mouthpiece of God, so when God speaks the prophet reveals what was said. Some times the revelation is recorded and some times it's not. The Bible says that all who have a testimony of Christ have the gift of prophecy, we all have the ability to receive revelation from God, that is. And not all the time when we receive revelation are we predicting the future, some times it's guidance for that very moment we are in or some times it's for some thing we need to reflect on that happened in the past.
Not only that, but parts of revelations may be lost, as well. wink :cough:deadseascrolls:cough
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Posted: Mon Sep 06, 2010 8:48 pm
I will agree that Bible is really misunderstood, but also it's so broad and vague that it's open to interpretation and any one verse can be applied to numerous events and situations.
I commonly don't share a lot of views with Catholics on a lot of subjects and interpretations of the Bible and doctrine. Not that I have any thing against Catholics or their views, so please don't misunderstand me, we usually just don't see eye to eye.
Sorry, I must have missed that about the Fish symbol sweatdrop
I do agree that parts are missing from the Bible and they're not just in the Dead Sea Scrolls. There are lots more than that. Things that have been removed before and even after the Bible started being compiled into the books that we have today.
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Posted: Mon Sep 06, 2010 8:57 pm
Shadows-shine I commonly don't share a lot of views with Catholics on a lot of subjects and interpretations of the Bible and doctrine. Not that I have any thing against Catholics or their views, so please don't misunderstand me, we usually just don't see eye to eye. I do agree that parts are missing from the Bible and they're not just in the Dead Sea Scrolls. There are lots more than that. Things that have been removed before and even after the Bible started being compiled into the books that we have today. Lawl, that's why I asked stated what I knew, cos it would be silly to get irritated if you don't share the same views or understanding xd
3nodding I've seen some seriously interesting stuff on National Geographic, the History Channel, and the Discovery channel. It was pretty neat learning about why they didn't enter the Catholic canon (lolcatholicbias) or the Talmud though also in some cases, quite lame.
>_>
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Posted: Tue Sep 07, 2010 5:28 pm
Slick Southpaw Shadows-shine I commonly don't share a lot of views with Catholics on a lot of subjects and interpretations of the Bible and doctrine. Not that I have any thing against Catholics or their views, so please don't misunderstand me, we usually just don't see eye to eye. I do agree that parts are missing from the Bible and they're not just in the Dead Sea Scrolls. There are lots more than that. Things that have been removed before and even after the Bible started being compiled into the books that we have today. Lawl, that's why I asked stated what I knew, cos it would be silly to get irritated if you don't share the same views or understanding xd
3nodding I've seen some seriously interesting stuff on National Geographic, the History Channel, and the Discovery channel. It was pretty neat learning about why they didn't enter the Catholic canon (lolcatholicbias) or the Talmud though also in some cases, quite lame.
>_>
I'm pretty skeptical about the History channel's documentaries about the Bible and what it contains. I stopped watching their shows with subject matter along those lines, when one show stated that when Jesus was a little boy, He pushed a boy off of a roof and resurrected him just to prove that He had the power of resurrection.
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Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2010 7:24 am
Shadows-shine Slick Southpaw Shadows-shine I commonly don't share a lot of views with Catholics on a lot of subjects and interpretations of the Bible and doctrine. Not that I have any thing against Catholics or their views, so please don't misunderstand me, we usually just don't see eye to eye. I do agree that parts are missing from the Bible and they're not just in the Dead Sea Scrolls. There are lots more than that. Things that have been removed before and even after the Bible started being compiled into the books that we have today. Lawl, that's why I asked stated what I knew, cos it would be silly to get irritated if you don't share the same views or understanding xd
3nodding I've seen some seriously interesting stuff on National Geographic, the History Channel, and the Discovery channel. It was pretty neat learning about why they didn't enter the Catholic canon (lolcatholicbias) or the Talmud though also in some cases, quite lame.
>_>
I'm pretty skeptical about the History channel's documentaries about the Bible and what it contains. I stopped watching their shows with subject matter along those lines, when one show stated that when Jesus was a little boy, He pushed a boy off of a roof and resurrected him just to prove that He had the power of resurrection. lolwhut? Seriously? Never seen anything to that degree of weirdness. o_O
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Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2010 8:06 am
Slick Southpaw Shadows-shine Slick Southpaw Shadows-shine I commonly don't share a lot of views with Catholics on a lot of subjects and interpretations of the Bible and doctrine. Not that I have any thing against Catholics or their views, so please don't misunderstand me, we usually just don't see eye to eye. I do agree that parts are missing from the Bible and they're not just in the Dead Sea Scrolls. There are lots more than that. Things that have been removed before and even after the Bible started being compiled into the books that we have today. Lawl, that's why I asked stated what I knew, cos it would be silly to get irritated if you don't share the same views or understanding xd
3nodding I've seen some seriously interesting stuff on National Geographic, the History Channel, and the Discovery channel. It was pretty neat learning about why they didn't enter the Catholic canon (lolcatholicbias) or the Talmud though also in some cases, quite lame.
>_>
I'm pretty skeptical about the History channel's documentaries about the Bible and what it contains. I stopped watching their shows with subject matter along those lines, when one show stated that when Jesus was a little boy, He pushed a boy off of a roof and resurrected him just to prove that He had the power of resurrection. lolwhut? Seriously? Never seen anything to that degree of weirdness. o_O
It was on several years ago. So I stopped watching the History Channel when it came to their documentation of religious history and biblical information.
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