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 Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 12:59 pm
Shadows-shine Heavenly Father's beginning isn't some thing we really worry about because it's not important for our salvation. Now I know that a member of the Church in the past stated that God once was as we are now. That very well could have been his speculation, a guess, a theory, etc. He is no longer a live for me to ask him what he meant by that statement. As for the Book of Mormon being the word of God, I believe it is. There is evidence to support it and the Bible is also the word of God. Also the Bible does not prohibit future or modern revelation. It doesn't say that revelation has come to an end or that it is the be all, end all word of God either. And the Book of Mormon is not an addition to the Bible. It's a completely separate book of scripture. It is an addition, it's adding on to holy scripture. Public revelation was fulfilled and completed by Christ, there was no room left open for more: John 17:4 4 I have glorified you on the earth; I have finished the work which you gave me to do.So your Church does not teach that God was once a man? Sorry, my bad. I did read it on a Mormon website but I'll have to check it out again, maybe it was just spoken of in speculation.
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Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 1:27 pm
Semiremis Shadows-shine Heavenly Father's beginning isn't some thing we really worry about because it's not important for our salvation. Now I know that a member of the Church in the past stated that God once was as we are now. That very well could have been his speculation, a guess, a theory, etc. He is no longer a live for me to ask him what he meant by that statement. As for the Book of Mormon being the word of God, I believe it is. There is evidence to support it and the Bible is also the word of God. Also the Bible does not prohibit future or modern revelation. It doesn't say that revelation has come to an end or that it is the be all, end all word of God either. And the Book of Mormon is not an addition to the Bible. It's a completely separate book of scripture. It is an addition, it's adding on to holy scripture. Public revelation was fulfilled and completed by Christ, there was no room left open for more: John 17:4 4 I have glorified you on the earth; I have finished the work which you gave me to do.So your Church does not teach that God was once a man? Sorry, my bad. I did read it on a Mormon website but I'll have to check it out again, maybe it was just spoken of in speculation. The work Christ was sent to do was just to teach the Gospel and redeem mankind that was His work. He finished it yes, but that does not mean He revealed all there is to know. He did say that there were other sheep not of the fold in Jerusalem that He had to preach the message to and also all the works that Christ did on earth cannot possibly be contained in one book or in the case of the Bible just 66. As for Heavenly Father being once as man is now...I believe who ever spoke it could have been speaking clearly out of speculation, because of the fact that when one is reading in Genesis, for example, it says that man is created in the image and likeness of God. So my guess is that the man who stated that "God was once a man" could've took it to mean what he was talking about. But this all purely speculation on my part. And like I said, no one in the LDS Church really worries about Heavenly Father's history or His beginning because it's doesn't pertain to our salvation and getting into Heaven.
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Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 6:51 pm
Semiremis Shadows-shine Heavenly Father's beginning isn't some thing we really worry about because it's not important for our salvation. Now I know that a member of the Church in the past stated that God once was as we are now. That very well could have been his speculation, a guess, a theory, etc. He is no longer a live for me to ask him what he meant by that statement. As for the Book of Mormon being the word of God, I believe it is. There is evidence to support it and the Bible is also the word of God. Also the Bible does not prohibit future or modern revelation. It doesn't say that revelation has come to an end or that it is the be all, end all word of God either. And the Book of Mormon is not an addition to the Bible. It's a completely separate book of scripture. It is an addition, it's adding on to holy scripture. Public revelation was fulfilled and completed by Christ, there was no room left open for more: John 17:4 4 I have glorified you on the earth; I have finished the work which you gave me to do.So your Church does not teach that God was once a man? Sorry, my bad. I did read it on a Mormon website but I'll have to check it out again, maybe it was just spoken of in speculation. If you decide to pick and choose what work Christ did and did not do, then you could say that we are all already judged, for He did the work, and so therefore there is no need for church service or worship. We can just go and live a complacent life.
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Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2010 1:21 pm
Someoneiknow Semiremis Shadows-shine Heavenly Father's beginning isn't some thing we really worry about because it's not important for our salvation. Now I know that a member of the Church in the past stated that God once was as we are now. That very well could have been his speculation, a guess, a theory, etc. He is no longer a live for me to ask him what he meant by that statement. As for the Book of Mormon being the word of God, I believe it is. There is evidence to support it and the Bible is also the word of God. Also the Bible does not prohibit future or modern revelation. It doesn't say that revelation has come to an end or that it is the be all, end all word of God either. And the Book of Mormon is not an addition to the Bible. It's a completely separate book of scripture. It is an addition, it's adding on to holy scripture. Public revelation was fulfilled and completed by Christ, there was no room left open for more: John 17:4 4 I have glorified you on the earth; I have finished the work which you gave me to do.So your Church does not teach that God was once a man? Sorry, my bad. I did read it on a Mormon website but I'll have to check it out again, maybe it was just spoken of in speculation. If you decide to pick and choose what work Christ did and did not do, then you could say that we are all already judged, for He did the work, and so therefore there is no need for church service or worship. We can just go and live a complacent life. If I wrote a book that in some ways followed the bible but in other ways completely diverged on a different path and told you to follow it you would probably say no. Then if I told you that "If you decide to pick and choose what work Christ did and did not do...etc" what would you then tell me? I have no idea what you would say but what I'm going to say is that rejecting Joseph Smiths book is not rejecting God. It's rejecting the work of man that's attempting to take you away from Christ. "I have finished the work which you gave me to do." Jesus said it, Mormons add on more work for him in the New World and in the BOM...somethings obviously not right there.
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Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2010 3:17 pm
Semiremis Someoneiknow Semiremis Shadows-shine Heavenly Father's beginning isn't some thing we really worry about because it's not important for our salvation. Now I know that a member of the Church in the past stated that God once was as we are now. That very well could have been his speculation, a guess, a theory, etc. He is no longer a live for me to ask him what he meant by that statement. As for the Book of Mormon being the word of God, I believe it is. There is evidence to support it and the Bible is also the word of God. Also the Bible does not prohibit future or modern revelation. It doesn't say that revelation has come to an end or that it is the be all, end all word of God either. And the Book of Mormon is not an addition to the Bible. It's a completely separate book of scripture. It is an addition, it's adding on to holy scripture. Public revelation was fulfilled and completed by Christ, there was no room left open for more: John 17:4 4 I have glorified you on the earth; I have finished the work which you gave me to do.So your Church does not teach that God was once a man? Sorry, my bad. I did read it on a Mormon website but I'll have to check it out again, maybe it was just spoken of in speculation. If you decide to pick and choose what work Christ did and did not do, then you could say that we are all already judged, for He did the work, and so therefore there is no need for church service or worship. We can just go and live a complacent life. If I wrote a book that in some ways followed the bible but in other ways completely diverged on a different path and told you to follow it you would probably say no. Then if I told you that "If you decide to pick and choose what work Christ did and did not do...etc" what would you then tell me? I have no idea what you would say but what I'm going to say is that rejecting Joseph Smiths book is not rejecting God. It's rejecting the work of man that's attempting to take you away from Christ. "I have finished the work which you gave me to do." Jesus said it, Mormons add on more work for him in the New World and in the BOM...somethings obviously not right there. And I said in my previous post, the only work Christ was sent to do is start the New Covenant, fulfill the old one, and redeem mankind by dying on the cross. That was His work, but that doesn't not mean that there isn't work to be done still and that revelation has ceased!
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Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2010 11:28 pm
Shadows-shine Semiremis Someoneiknow Semiremis Shadows-shine Heavenly Father's beginning isn't some thing we really worry about because it's not important for our salvation. Now I know that a member of the Church in the past stated that God once was as we are now. That very well could have been his speculation, a guess, a theory, etc. He is no longer a live for me to ask him what he meant by that statement. As for the Book of Mormon being the word of God, I believe it is. There is evidence to support it and the Bible is also the word of God. Also the Bible does not prohibit future or modern revelation. It doesn't say that revelation has come to an end or that it is the be all, end all word of God either. And the Book of Mormon is not an addition to the Bible. It's a completely separate book of scripture. It is an addition, it's adding on to holy scripture. Public revelation was fulfilled and completed by Christ, there was no room left open for more: John 17:4 4 I have glorified you on the earth; I have finished the work which you gave me to do.So your Church does not teach that God was once a man? Sorry, my bad. I did read it on a Mormon website but I'll have to check it out again, maybe it was just spoken of in speculation. If you decide to pick and choose what work Christ did and did not do, then you could say that we are all already judged, for He did the work, and so therefore there is no need for church service or worship. We can just go and live a complacent life. If I wrote a book that in some ways followed the bible but in other ways completely diverged on a different path and told you to follow it you would probably say no. Then if I told you that "If you decide to pick and choose what work Christ did and did not do...etc" what would you then tell me? I have no idea what you would say but what I'm going to say is that rejecting Joseph Smiths book is not rejecting God. It's rejecting the work of man that's attempting to take you away from Christ. "I have finished the work which you gave me to do." Jesus said it, Mormons add on more work for him in the New World and in the BOM...somethings obviously not right there. And I said in my previous post, the only work Christ was sent to do is start the New Covenant, fulfill the old one, and redeem mankind by dying on the cross. That was His work, but that doesn't not mean that there isn't work to be done still and that revelation has ceased! What work is there still to be done when Jesus says he as already finished it? Why would he go to the new world if the work given to him on earth was already finished? From my perspective either you are wrong or God is a liar. I don't think have to point out where I stand on that.
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Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2010 10:46 am
Semiremis Shadows-shine Semiremis Someoneiknow Semiremis Shadows-shine Heavenly Father's beginning isn't some thing we really worry about because it's not important for our salvation. Now I know that a member of the Church in the past stated that God once was as we are now. That very well could have been his speculation, a guess, a theory, etc. He is no longer a live for me to ask him what he meant by that statement. As for the Book of Mormon being the word of God, I believe it is. There is evidence to support it and the Bible is also the word of God. Also the Bible does not prohibit future or modern revelation. It doesn't say that revelation has come to an end or that it is the be all, end all word of God either. And the Book of Mormon is not an addition to the Bible. It's a completely separate book of scripture. It is an addition, it's adding on to holy scripture. Public revelation was fulfilled and completed by Christ, there was no room left open for more: John 17:4 4 I have glorified you on the earth; I have finished the work which you gave me to do.So your Church does not teach that God was once a man? Sorry, my bad. I did read it on a Mormon website but I'll have to check it out again, maybe it was just spoken of in speculation. If you decide to pick and choose what work Christ did and did not do, then you could say that we are all already judged, for He did the work, and so therefore there is no need for church service or worship. We can just go and live a complacent life. If I wrote a book that in some ways followed the bible but in other ways completely diverged on a different path and told you to follow it you would probably say no. Then if I told you that "If you decide to pick and choose what work Christ did and did not do...etc" what would you then tell me? I have no idea what you would say but what I'm going to say is that rejecting Joseph Smiths book is not rejecting God. It's rejecting the work of man that's attempting to take you away from Christ. "I have finished the work which you gave me to do." Jesus said it, Mormons add on more work for him in the New World and in the BOM...somethings obviously not right there. And I said in my previous post, the only work Christ was sent to do is start the New Covenant, fulfill the old one, and redeem mankind by dying on the cross. That was His work, but that doesn't not mean that there isn't work to be done still and that revelation has ceased! What work is there still to be done when Jesus says he as already finished it? Why would he go to the new world if the work given to him on earth was already finished? From my perspective either you are wrong or God is a liar. I don't think have to point out where I stand on that. The work that Jesus is specifically talking about it dying for our sins, the will of the Father was met. But maybe you believe God is a liar because He talks to His Father, but you believe He talks to Himself, and says "Not my will, but thine"
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