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 Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2009 10:54 pm
SeymourHiney mr_zoot James628 Democrats are saying baisicly its a right to have other people pay for your health care, just like a certain party that will remain nameless once proudly fought for their right to make african-americans tend their feilds... indeed the roles of the dems and rep's have definitely switched. Imagine...the Rep's used to be the liberals lol! I don't think anyone is saying its a right.....its just beneficial to society, so we vote for it. THat's all. How is government control benficial to society? Some government control is necessary. If you don't believe that, then you don't believe in any government and are therefore an anarchist. A simple one, government control of prices during a crisis. If you've never been in a natural disaster, you haven't seen how many people try to rip others off. Businesses are not allowed in most states from price gouging because it's unfair to the people. Laize-fair capitalism would say that's alright, but that might make the disaster worse since some people would be reduced to stealing and looting. In looting, unless steps are immediately taken to stop it, it shows that group of people is not equal to the general population.
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Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2009 10:55 pm
SeymourHiney Kaim Arouet Didn't a different bill get passed actually? This one got shot down and another 80+ pages got added, if I'm correct. No, this is the bill that passed the House. They may have added 80 pages, but I don't know. If they added extra pages, then this isn't the one that passed the house. See, that's how addition works, adding something to an original amount changes the original amount.
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Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 6:13 pm
mr_zoot James628 Democrats are saying baisicly its a right to have other people pay for your health care, just like a certain party that will remain nameless once proudly fought for their right to make african-americans tend their feilds... indeed the roles of the dems and rep's have definitely switched. Imagine...the Rep's used to be the liberals lol! I don't think anyone is saying its a right.....its just beneficial to society, so we vote for it. THat's all. Dont confuse liberal with progressive. To be Liberal wouldent be to want a larger government.
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Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 6:24 pm
Kaim Arouet SeymourHiney mr_zoot James628 Democrats are saying baisicly its a right to have other people pay for your health care, just like a certain party that will remain nameless once proudly fought for their right to make african-americans tend their feilds... indeed the roles of the dems and rep's have definitely switched. Imagine...the Rep's used to be the liberals lol! I don't think anyone is saying its a right.....its just beneficial to society, so we vote for it. THat's all. How is government control benficial to society? Some government control is necessary. If you don't believe that, then you don't believe in any government and are therefore an anarchist. A simple one, government control of prices during a crisis. If you've never been in a natural disaster, you haven't seen how many people try to rip others off. Businesses are not allowed in most states from price gouging because it's unfair to the people. Laize-fair capitalism would say that's alright, but that might make the disaster worse since some people would be reduced to stealing and looting. In looting, unless steps are immediately taken to stop it, it shows that group of people is not equal to the general population. ...I think you're missing my point. I'm not saying government is all bad, just too much of it is. There have to be limits. I think George Washington said it best when he said: "Government is not reason, it is not eloquence – it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and fearful master."
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Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 9:14 pm
SeymourHiney Kaim Arouet SeymourHiney mr_zoot James628 Democrats are saying baisicly its a right to have other people pay for your health care, just like a certain party that will remain nameless once proudly fought for their right to make african-americans tend their feilds... indeed the roles of the dems and rep's have definitely switched. Imagine...the Rep's used to be the liberals lol! I don't think anyone is saying its a right.....its just beneficial to society, so we vote for it. THat's all. How is government control benficial to society? Some government control is necessary. If you don't believe that, then you don't believe in any government and are therefore an anarchist. A simple one, government control of prices during a crisis. If you've never been in a natural disaster, you haven't seen how many people try to rip others off. Businesses are not allowed in most states from price gouging because it's unfair to the people. Laize-fair capitalism would say that's alright, but that might make the disaster worse since some people would be reduced to stealing and looting. In looting, unless steps are immediately taken to stop it, it shows that group of people is not equal to the general population. ...I think you're missing my point. I'm not saying government is all bad, just too much of it is. There have to be limits. I think George Washington said it best when he said: "Government is not reason, it is not eloquence – it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and fearful master." Your question was "How is government control benficial to society?'' All I did was answer that, I didn't say there should complete government control or anything like that. Nice try, straw man.
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Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2009 8:16 pm
Kaim Arouet SeymourHiney Kaim Arouet SeymourHiney mr_zoot James628 Democrats are saying baisicly its a right to have other people pay for your health care, just like a certain party that will remain nameless once proudly fought for their right to make african-americans tend their feilds... indeed the roles of the dems and rep's have definitely switched. Imagine...the Rep's used to be the liberals lol! I don't think anyone is saying its a right.....its just beneficial to society, so we vote for it. THat's all. How is government control benficial to society? Some government control is necessary. If you don't believe that, then you don't believe in any government and are therefore an anarchist. A simple one, government control of prices during a crisis. If you've never been in a natural disaster, you haven't seen how many people try to rip others off. Businesses are not allowed in most states from price gouging because it's unfair to the people. Laize-fair capitalism would say that's alright, but that might make the disaster worse since some people would be reduced to stealing and looting. In looting, unless steps are immediately taken to stop it, it shows that group of people is not equal to the general population. ...I think you're missing my point. I'm not saying government is all bad, just too much of it is. There have to be limits. I think George Washington said it best when he said: "Government is not reason, it is not eloquence – it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and fearful master." Your question was "How is government control benficial to society?'' All I did was answer that, I didn't say there should complete government control or anything like that. Nice try, straw man. -sigh- I was saying that in reference to mr_zoot's comment. Straw man? The hell does that mean...
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Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2009 8:19 pm
Kaim Arouet SeymourHiney Kaim Arouet Didn't a different bill get passed actually? This one got shot down and another 80+ pages got added, if I'm correct. No, this is the bill that passed the House. They may have added 80 pages, but I don't know. If they added extra pages, then this isn't the one that passed the house. See, that's how addition works, adding something to an original amount changes the original amount. -sigh- I was saying that I didn't know if they did or not. For all I knew at the time, they could've added some after I posted this.
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Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 9:53 pm
SeymourHiney Kaim Arouet SeymourHiney Kaim Arouet SeymourHiney How is government control benficial to society? Some government control is necessary. If you don't believe that, then you don't believe in any government and are therefore an anarchist. A simple one, government control of prices during a crisis. If you've never been in a natural disaster, you haven't seen how many people try to rip others off. Businesses are not allowed in most states from price gouging because it's unfair to the people. Laize-fair capitalism would say that's alright, but that might make the disaster worse since some people would be reduced to stealing and looting. In looting, unless steps are immediately taken to stop it, it shows that group of people is not equal to the general population. ...I think you're missing my point. I'm not saying government is all bad, just too much of it is. There have to be limits. I think George Washington said it best when he said: "Government is not reason, it is not eloquence – it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and fearful master." Your question was "How is government control benficial to society?'' All I did was answer that, I didn't say there should complete government control or anything like that. Nice try, straw man. -sigh- I was saying that in reference to mr_zoot's comment. Straw man? The hell does that mean...So because it was geared towards someone else means I can't answer in a public forum?
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Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 9:54 pm
SeymourHiney Kaim Arouet SeymourHiney Kaim Arouet Didn't a different bill get passed actually? This one got shot down and another 80+ pages got added, if I'm correct. No, this is the bill that passed the House. They may have added 80 pages, but I don't know. If they added extra pages, then this isn't the one that passed the house. See, that's how addition works, adding something to an original amount changes the original amount. -sigh- I was saying that I didn't know if they did or not. For all I knew at the time, they could've added some after I posted this. It's the point of this might not be the bill that passed but you said it was pretty much guaranteed. Just watch open ended answers like that
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Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2009 12:07 pm
Kaim Arouet SeymourHiney Kaim Arouet SeymourHiney Kaim Arouet Didn't a different bill get passed actually? This one got shot down and another 80+ pages got added, if I'm correct. No, this is the bill that passed the House. They may have added 80 pages, but I don't know. If they added extra pages, then this isn't the one that passed the house. See, that's how addition works, adding something to an original amount changes the original amount. -sigh- I was saying that I didn't know if they did or not. For all I knew at the time, they could've added some after I posted this. It's the point of this might not be the bill that passed but you said it was pretty much guaranteed. Just watch open ended answers like that ...You're right. I contradicted myself. Whoops!
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Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2009 12:10 pm
Kaim Arouet SeymourHiney Kaim Arouet SeymourHiney Kaim Arouet SeymourHiney How is government control benficial to society? Some government control is necessary. If you don't believe that, then you don't believe in any government and are therefore an anarchist. A simple one, government control of prices during a crisis. If you've never been in a natural disaster, you haven't seen how many people try to rip others off. Businesses are not allowed in most states from price gouging because it's unfair to the people. Laize-fair capitalism would say that's alright, but that might make the disaster worse since some people would be reduced to stealing and looting. In looting, unless steps are immediately taken to stop it, it shows that group of people is not equal to the general population. ...I think you're missing my point. I'm not saying government is all bad, just too much of it is. There have to be limits. I think George Washington said it best when he said: "Government is not reason, it is not eloquence – it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and fearful master." Your question was "How is government control benficial to society?'' All I did was answer that, I didn't say there should complete government control or anything like that. Nice try, straw man. -sigh- I was saying that in reference to mr_zoot's comment. Straw man? The hell does that mean...So because it was geared towards someone else means I can't answer in a public forum? No. Put it in context with what mr_zoot said. He said he thinks that Health Care Reform is beneficial to society. I think that it's just a government takeover, hence the "How is government control beneficial to society?" question. Maybe I should have specified on what I thought about it.
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Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2009 12:23 pm
SeymourHiney Kaim Arouet SeymourHiney Kaim Arouet SeymourHiney ...I think you're missing my point. I'm not saying government is all bad, just too much of it is. There have to be limits. I think George Washington said it best when he said: "Government is not reason, it is not eloquence – it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and fearful master." Your question was "How is government control benficial to society?'' All I did was answer that, I didn't say there should complete government control or anything like that. Nice try, straw man. -sigh- I was saying that in reference to mr_zoot's comment. Straw man? The hell does that mean...So because it was geared towards someone else means I can't answer in a public forum? No. Put it in context with what mr_zoot said. He said he thinks that Health Care Reform is beneficial to society. I think that it's just a government takeover, hence the "How is government control beneficial to society?" question. Maybe I should have specified on what I thought about it. That would have helped, sorry if I'm coming off as an a** or anything I just want you to do the best you can and showing you things like that will make your arguments better.
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Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2009 12:26 pm
SeymourHiney Kaim Arouet SeymourHiney Kaim Arouet SeymourHiney Kaim Arouet Didn't a different bill get passed actually? This one got shot down and another 80+ pages got added, if I'm correct. No, this is the bill that passed the House. They may have added 80 pages, but I don't know. If they added extra pages, then this isn't the one that passed the house. See, that's how addition works, adding something to an original amount changes the original amount. -sigh- I was saying that I didn't know if they did or not. For all I knew at the time, they could've added some after I posted this. It's the point of this might not be the bill that passed but you said it was pretty much guaranteed. Just watch open ended answers like that ...You're right. I contradicted myself. Whoops! Glad you see what I was saying.
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Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2009 12:30 pm
Kaim Arouet SeymourHiney Kaim Arouet SeymourHiney Kaim Arouet SeymourHiney ...I think you're missing my point. I'm not saying government is all bad, just too much of it is. There have to be limits. I think George Washington said it best when he said: "Government is not reason, it is not eloquence – it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and fearful master." Your question was "How is government control benficial to society?'' All I did was answer that, I didn't say there should complete government control or anything like that. Nice try, straw man. -sigh- I was saying that in reference to mr_zoot's comment. Straw man? The hell does that mean...So because it was geared towards someone else means I can't answer in a public forum? No. Put it in context with what mr_zoot said. He said he thinks that Health Care Reform is beneficial to society. I think that it's just a government takeover, hence the "How is government control beneficial to society?" question. Maybe I should have specified on what I thought about it. That would have helped, sorry if I'm coming off as an a** or anything I just want you to do the best you can and showing you things like that will make your arguments better. No, I didn't think you were being an a** or anything. I should have specified more.
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Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2009 12:30 pm
Kaim Arouet SeymourHiney Kaim Arouet SeymourHiney Kaim Arouet If they added extra pages, then this isn't the one that passed the house. See, that's how addition works, adding something to an original amount changes the original amount. -sigh- I was saying that I didn't know if they did or not. For all I knew at the time, they could've added some after I posted this. It's the point of this might not be the bill that passed but you said it was pretty much guaranteed. Just watch open ended answers like that ...You're right. I contradicted myself. Whoops! Glad you see what I was saying. lol
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