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 Posted: Sun Aug 29, 2010 9:09 pm
Afro-Dawg Artistic Genocide Afro-Dawg I thought Orion tried to rape Artemis? But I know what you mean about petty. Of course, I can't think of an instance where gods in any mythology have let humans get away with making them look foolish. Uhhh.... I've never even heard that before. Orion and Artemis were considered friends. Yikes. I wish I could remember where I heard/read that. I blame mythologists who can't agree on one interpretation. Ohhh.... http://www.pantheon.org/articles/o/orion.html says: Quote: Some say that Orion had raped one of Artemis' female followers, and so Artemis killed him as punishment. She sent a scorpion after him, which stung him and poisoned him. But there are other stories on that site that say they were friends and it was Apollo's trickery that caused Artemis to kill Orion. I'm not sure how much stock I put in that site, however here's what Theoi has to say about it: Quote: After this the giant retired to the island of Delos or Krete and became a hunting companion of the goddess Artemis. He died while in her service and was placed amongst the stars as the constellation Orion. The circumstances of his death are variously related. In one version he desired to marry the goddess but her brother Apollon tricked Artemis into shooting him with an arrow as he was swimming far out at sea. In another version, Artemis killed him deliberately after he raped her attendant Oupis. However the most common story was that Orion bragged he would hunt down all the beasts of the earth, and so Mother Earth sent up a giant scorpion to destroy him. Both the giant and scorpion were placed amongst the stars, one rising as the other set. http://www.theoi.com/Gigante/GiganteOrion.html So it varies. Technically we're both right, but the most common myth is the gaea one.
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Posted: Sun Aug 29, 2010 9:15 pm
Yeah, I figured it was a matter of which source one was reading.
It always seems human hubris is what raises the gods' ire.
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Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2010 10:24 am
I wasn't refering to Orion. I'll have to look it up, but this story was about a mortal named Actaeon, who happened to see her bathing while out hunting. And I mispoke last night. He was't turned into a hind (which is female) he was turned into a Stag.
As to Sisyphus, he wasn't trying to make them look foolish, he just kept outsmarting them in an attempt to not die and get stuck in Tatarus. Admitedly, he wasn't a very nice guy and would have gotten a fairly dismal fate anyway, but they punished him much more harshly for his trickery than his murdering and seducing.
And what about Prometheus? Zeus was upset with humanity so he witheld fire. Prometheus, stole it away and gave it them and for this he's chained to a rock to have his liver eaten out by an eagle, only to have it regenerate every night to be eaten again.
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Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2010 10:31 am
But then Xena, Warrior Princess teamed up with Hercules to regain Prometheus' sword to save everyone in the world!
>.> The first season is on Netflix.
But yeah...I think Zeus is probably the worst one of them all. I always marvel at how level-headed Athena is, until it comes to her weaving skills. But some people argue that Athena turning Arachne into a spider was a gesture of care, since Arachne loved weaving so much. I like to go with that interpretation because I like Athena otherwise. I think it's interesting that many mythologies had war goddesses in addition to war gods. It indicates a respect for women I think we don't have in our current world culture. However, I don't think women were really treated any better in ancient societies than they are now....Hmm.
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Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2010 10:41 am
Actually in the Illiad, but more so in the Odyssey, Homer seems to alude to the fact that Females in Greece may have had more "power" then men of acient greece let on. wink
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Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2010 1:08 pm
I have issues with the Roman deities. They really irk me for some reason. The only Greek deities I have problems with are Ares and Zeus.
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Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2010 1:22 pm
Artistic Genocide Afro-Dawg I thought Orion tried to rape Artemis? But I know what you mean about petty. Of course, I can't think of an instance where gods in any mythology have let humans get away with making them look foolish. Uhhh.... I've never even heard that before. Orion and Artemis were considered friends. In my textbook Classical Myth by Barry B. Powell, it talks about how Orion tried to rape Artemis, and how she sent Scorpio to kill him. Artemis turned both of them into constellations and that is why Scorpio is always chasing Orion in the night sky. I can double-check the textbook when I get home from school. It is just one textbook though. I can look up the story in my other textbooks to see if they mention Orion trying to rape Artemis. Add: I looked in my textbook when I got home and it says that Artemis placed a scorpion on Orion's head to kill him b/c he either tried to rape her or b/c he was having an affair with Eos.
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Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2010 11:20 am
I have a really strong aversion to Athena, which is strange to me, as I am often drawn to more "masculine" goddesses in other pantheons. I also feel a great distance from the Egyptian pantheon- not an aversion, per se, but I'm definitely not drawn to it at all.
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Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2010 4:29 am
Afro-Dawg Yahweh, for me, is more of a "Oh hey, you grew up under my religion for fourteen years and then decided to go elsewhere. Happens all the time." Seems more like Yahweh's just let me be since I left Catholicism, which is certainly nice. I can understand exactly where you're coming from. Afro-Dawg My confirmation name is still Brigid, though, since the Christians had a Saint Brigid. Mine's exactly the same, my mum suggested I choose that one because the patron saint of the high school I'm about to graduate from was Saint Brigid. I thought she was just trying to suck up to the people at school through my name. Needless to say, I hated it.
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