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Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2005 6:33 pm
Poor Remus has had a hard life being a werewolf. This has lowered his self-esteem the tiniest bit. His status has made him, atleast in his eyes, 'too old, too poor... too dangerous...' for a love life.
This, I believe, is the reason why Tonks has fallen in love with him. Remus has a lovable nature and is humble to the last grey hair of his head. And yet, somewhere there is that Marauder personality that no doubt Tonks has recognised.
I believe that Tonks and Lupin both want each other, and Remus believes he is not good enough for her, as shown in the quote, "I am not being ridiculous," said Lupin steadily. "Tonks deserves someone young and whole."
I believe that Lupin DOES like Tonks, and was not merely trying to shake her off. Lupin, if he does not want Tonks, would not 'refuse to meet her eyes, staring at the floor.' He wants her, but will not admit it. Not only that, but:
'Tonks, her hair miraculously returned to vividest pink; Remus Lupin, with whom she seemed to be holding hands;'
Tonks would only regain her metamorphisis powers if the thing that was blocking them was removed. Her love for Remus, I believe, and his apparent rejection of her has driven her close to insane-ness. (And they were holding hands.)
I rest my case.
And - please add me to the ship's roster!
EDIT: How old is Remus? How old is Tonks?
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Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2005 2:37 pm
Kiyitai EDIT: How old is Remus? How old is Tonks?
Remus is 38/37 at the end of book six and Tonks turns (or did turn) 24 that year. Well that is if the Lexicon has their dates right anyway. There is 14-13 years differance between them. Not all that big really.
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Posted: Sat Dec 17, 2005 8:28 am
Acidic Cynic i_heart_ron Fantastic Beasts seems to shut down the multicolored werewolf pups theory: "Humans turn into werewolves only when bitten." (page 41) But will they be Metamorphagi? And I think that need to be in the Fenrir Greyback thread as well. Although then how did the first werewolves come about?
Metamorphmaguses are extremely rare so the chance of Remus and Dora having multicolored werewolf babies is nearly 100% impossible.
Jo has once again changed some legends and made the curse pass only through a bite as according to Fantasic Beasts and Where to Find Them by Newt Scamander, so unless Remus bites his children on a night of a full moon (and let it be said that werewolves are more likely to go after family and friends than they are strangers so he'd probably just eat them anyways) there aren't going to be any werewolf kids for Dora or Remus.
Also, do you think perhaps the ministry might, along with law against werewolves getting certain jobs and holding so much in there possession? I believe I read a fanfiction that gave such a nice list for laws against werewolves that included not being able to marry, have children, own property or items including clothes, books, etc. that totaled more than 200 galleons, among other various laws that brought to mind Nazi Germany.
I don't know about you, but it seems like if there were a chance of the curse being passed onto children, the ministry would forbidden werewolves from having children, so we have another point against the multi-colored werewolf babies.
As for the Metamorphagery...it is an extremely rare ability that makes Dora so very unique what with her eyes and hair changing with her moods. We can count that out as well.
Finally, the first werewolf initiated a change in their physical form by using potions and other such things given to them by the Devil. Of course, this is according to some books that I have read about werewolves. Jo changed that most likely. Perhaps it would be best if someone asked her.
Also, as a piece of random information, in most cases a werewolf can pass on the curse through various means, including semen, saliva (as Jo has it), and blood (sort of like HIV, really, though saliva doesn't work in that case) so in most werewolf literature. (A quote I remember is, "There's no such thing as safe sex with a werewolf.") If indeed these two are all in lovey love with each other and happily ever after, Dora could end up as a werewolf maybe...but I doubt it because...this is children's book (do not fear the sarcasm).
And on another note: Luny, I love you for saying exactly what I was going to say.
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Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2005 1:04 pm
I don't particularily like the pairing especially. But I support it anyway because I concider it cannon. =OLunar_Blade The whole Lupin/Tonks ship was brushed upon a lot during the 6th book, but I didn't quite see anything of the sort in the 5th book (Finishing a sentence off for someone doesn't mean you fancy them). If you read the 6th book you'll see that Lupin tries to avoid the subject, and I believe it is because the poor man does not return the same feelings for Dora (Tonks). Awhile ago actually decided to drag out my OoP book and see if I could find any Remus/Dora fluff. And I honestly found none at all. But! That doesn't mean that it didn't happen. But the subject was only brought up at the hospital scene, so there was really nothing for him to avoid. I also, personally, doubt that Remus would be cowardly enough to give Tonks hope by saying something like "Oh, but I can't because I'm old!" when he really didn't share her feelings at all. She was miserable through the whole book because she thought that Remus felt that he couldn't love her, even though he really did. You'd think that he would explain the situation to her a little bit sooner, rather than just let her be miserable for so long.Lunar_Blade The hospital scene could be either a joyous scene for Lupin/Tonks shippers, but I however think that Lupin was desperately trying to shake her off. After all, he put himself down, didn't look at her, and I could see that as a way to sort of 'get her off his back'. I suppose it rather depends on how you read it. I saw it as he was desperately trying to not love her. =OLunar_Blade Holding hands could be the thing that confuses me. They could either have got together, or he obviously explained the situation to her and they were friends. (This is a copy-paste from a post that I made to Remus in the HP sub-forum):
It wasn't just that they were holding hands, though. Dora's hair was pink again. Which I believe symbolises that she was happy again. They were at a funeral, usually that doesn't make people happy and, concidering that she spent the entire book with mousey brown hair because Remus was afraid to 'go out' with her, it would probably take a damn good reason for her hair to randomly turn pink again at a funeral. Regulus at one point said that 'maybe she finally realized that Remus doesn't love her'. But since when does finding out that the person that you've been in love with for who knows how long doesn't love you make you happy? Them holding hands at a funeral isn't completely proof, no, but concidering that JK wrote that about a page after the whole scene with Remus and Dora, I rather thought it was put there to be symbolizing that they've finally actually gotten together.
EDIT: Btw, I love the theme of the thread. x3 But, do ships have dining halls? I know in ferries they have cafatirias, and in smaller boats they have gallies. But I don't know of boats with dining halls.
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Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2006 4:04 pm
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Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2006 6:24 pm
Awwww... I love Lupin/Tonks. For me, it was totally unexpected so I freaked out when they came clean in the book. I was like AWWWWOMGSFANGILNDJAFHFJSKD!!!YAY
I was excited. So um... yay for this fourm?
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