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Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2005 2:13 pm
Acidic Cynic i_heart_ron And once the task is complete, where is the resolution that Draco displayed the night of the Christmas party? He loses all agency, becomes a passive and silent object, a burden--and mission--for Snape, whose only concern at that moment appears to be his star pupil's safety. He is barely mentioned, and vanishes well before Apparating from the grounds. I think we should be quite concerned for him. You notice how Harry thinks the same way by the end? He begins to pity him. Who doesn't pity him?
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Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2005 1:36 am
Voldemort, for sure.
An important question with regards to Draco is: How will Voldemort react to Snape having to kill Dumbledore for him?
We know Voldemort isn't a very fair master, and he seems to enjoy inflicting pain, even on his own followers; so he might ignore Draco's success with the Vanishing Cabinet and punish him for failing to kill Dumbledore. If Voldemort tries to kill Draco, or does kill him, that will lose him Narcissa, Lucius, perhaps Bellatrix, and probably the support of all the Death Eaters with children. They'll think like Mr and Mrs Black did in the end about purebloods; if him, why not them? But is Voldie as blind to the concept of family loyalty as he is to love? Will he know the consequences of trying to do away with Draco Malfoy? Will that be a factor in his inevitable downfall?
The question becomes moot if Draco and Snape aren't going back to Voldemort. If they are hiding out, then the question becomes: Who's side are they really on? Are they on no one's side, just looking out for themselves? Are they on Harry's side, wanting Big V's downfall? Or are they loyal to V?
AND WHY AM i USING SO MANY QUESTION MARKS IN THIS POST????????????
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Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2005 12:22 pm
I don't think that Snape and Draco would try and return to Voldemort. But if they did I have no idea what would happen. I don't think that Voldemort could ever lose Bellatrix's loyalty since she would gladly give her hypothetical sons to Voldemort but the other Death Eaters with children might leave. But hold on, speaking of Regulus, Death Eaters were still loyal to Voldemort after he had Regulus done away with. Weren't they? I don't think that Voldemort understands family bonds, but I'm not sure he'd be dumb enough to ignore them. He must know that to many people family is important or he wouldn't be using Draco to get back at Lucius
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Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2005 2:24 am
Basil_Hallward I don't think that Snape and Draco would try and return to Voldemort. But if they did I have no idea what would happen. I don't think that Voldemort understands family bonds, but I'm not sure he'd be dumb enough to ignore them. He must know that to many people family is important or he wouldn't be using Draco to get back at Lucius Thats true...family loyalty is not always to be confused with love...look at the Mafia.
Basil_Hallward I don't think that Voldemort could ever lose Bellatrix's loyalty since she would gladly give her hypothetical sons to Voldemort but the other Death Eaters with children might leave. Bellatrix said she would give her hypothetical sons in his service, not let him kill them. The difference may seem small but for someone like Bellatrix it would be huge.
Basil_Hallward But hold on, speaking of Regulus, Death Eaters were still loyal to Voldemort after he had Regulus done away with. Weren't they? The Death Eaters stayed on after Regulus because as they saw it, he betrayed them; he deserved to die. But Draco didn't betray them, he didn't even really fail; it's not even like Avery, who misled V about the prophesy. In the end the job got done and Draco's part with the Vanishing Cabinet was a very major pary of that success.
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Posted: Sat Nov 19, 2005 12:21 pm
ohhh goody! an opportunity to rave about what might be my favorite post-HBP essay! (Actually, it's terribly written, but the ideas are so solid, I don't even care, which if you know me, is a big deal indeed!) Basically it contends that the Vow and murder were huge lapses of judgement on Snapes part because it demonstrates his first loyalty is not to LV, but to the disgraced Malfoy family, and that Voldemort intended Draco to fail, and might not be thrilled that Snape succeeded at something V himself could not accomplish, that our two favoritist Slytherins are now more than likely going to be on the run from both sides. (There is a third "argument," but it's lame and unconvincing and merely semantic, so I ignore it as best as I am able.)
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Posted: Sun Dec 18, 2005 8:39 pm
I think draco is actual a kind persaon but mislead by his father and family. I think he is forced to act the way he does. He didn't kill dumbledore, he couldn't but he can't. He isn't that type of person. He is a good but mislead and abused boy. He was crying!!
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Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2006 2:25 pm
 And that's all i have to say on the matter
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Posted: Wed Apr 12, 2006 12:36 pm
Draco Malfoy deserves to die!!! He helped snape to kill dumbeldore and the others...
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Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2006 6:27 am
personaly, i pity malfoy. i do think he's a rather nasty peice of work, but he's not actually evil. plus, he's only so mean because he was brought up that way. however, he never wanted to join forces with voldemort. he's just weak when it comes to things like that. malfoy is just a poor little boy who is being forced to do the bidding of those more powerful.
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Posted: Fri Jul 28, 2006 10:22 pm
I dont think Draco's evil. I mean, come on, he loves his mother. I mean, he did everything for her. I'm not saying he's nice, but he's not evil. And I don't think he's weak. If he was weak, he would've been the one to kill Dumbledore.
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Posted: Sat Jul 29, 2006 2:26 pm
Draco is just living a life that is expected of him. How could a child who has grown up with Lucius for a father not learn to hate mudbloods and value pureblood. He has been raised in such a way that he really doesn't have much of a choice. That is not to say that he is some poor abused soul, it just says that certain morals and opinions have been instilled in him by his father. This also explains why he really doesn't have it in him to kill. He only acts the way he does and believes the things he does because it was expected of him. He has no deep reason to hate mudbloods other than the fact that his father says he should. The pureblood battle seems so old, that it really isn't relevant in Draco's time. He knows what it is all about, but it is so irrelevant that he can't form any solid reasoning for it in his mind, so his whole contempt for mudbloods is very weakly based. I'm attempting to think of a common example to liken this situation to real life. Okay, bear with me, I think this example will work. In the days when our parents and grandparents were growing up, women were expected to get married and start a family and raise the kids and please the husband. That is just the way it was and "everyone" followed along those lines. In the rare situation where a young woman didn't want children or didn't want to get married, it was greatly frowned upon, both by the family and the community. It just wasn't heard of. Now though, it is greatly common for women to go to school and get careers and the option for a woman to not have children or not to get married is viable. It isn't uncommon to find single women in their middle years who have never been married and have never had children. Sure, we all know how things were half a century ago, and some people still feel that a woman should have her main goals in creating a family, but girls growing up now know that they have the option of not doing so. That can be likened to how Draco is. His family happens to be part of the group that still believe in the value of purebloods, even though he knows that those ideals really hold no water anymore. The memory of when those days were strong is still there, but to take a stand for it really singles someone out as out-of-date. His era is the sort of Generation X of wizards, the children of the wizard Baby-Boom.
So I guess that was all a great rambling mess to try to explain that Draco is who he is because that is what his father expected him to be, but in order to be that person, he has to battle with the currently accepted views within the wizarding community.
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