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 Posted: Thu Jan 01, 2009 1:16 am
Well, the CP of whatever country you are in. I don't know if they list their local branches online though. Check their site or Gallenger can give you a link if they do, though if there are any demonstrations near you soon, they would probably be there with a table and would save you the effort of tracking them down. The table would probably have copies of the manifesto, state and revolution and proletarian revolution, though maybe they are exactly like the CP here and no longer sell the original works at public events, but only commentaries and such.
You may want to grab their paper and compare their arguments and propositions and demands with mine. I think you will see who is more orthodox (hint: I are orthodox), whether you end up agreeing with the orthodoxy or not.
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Posted: Thu Jan 01, 2009 8:43 am
Gracchvs Well, the CP of whatever country you are in. I don't know if they list their local branches online though. Check their site or Gallenger can give you a link if they do, though if there are any demonstrations near you soon, they would probably be there with a table and would save you the effort of tracking them down. The table would probably have copies of the manifesto, state and revolution and proletarian revolution, though maybe they are exactly like the CP here and no longer sell the original works at public events, but only commentaries and such. You may want to grab their paper and compare their arguments and propositions and demands with mine. I think you will see who is more orthodox (hint: I are orthodox), whether you end up agreeing with the orthodoxy or not. CPUSA will only spew pro democratic party bullshit. Pro Obama Pro democrates thats it from there newspapers really. RCP will just state Fascism every other word and proclaim it to be genious. Infact the language used is even more dumb foundingly easy then Marx. Atleast Marx, Lenin, Althusser etc pose a challenge for the reader to comprehend. But its basically the question of is it raising social consciousness to dumb down Marx so that idiotic people can understand it or for the dumb to rise to understand Marx? CPUSA in Mass is in Cambridge. He can also go to the RCP as well if he wants books. The RCP bookstores are pretty good although you have to listen to the nagging of the Bob ******** think stalin was too mechanical".. says a bobby supporter " I think Marxist-Leninism and even Marx is mechanical for how else is it to be a science if it wasnt?" He didnt really like that statement and let me go on to pick up what books I wanted.
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Posted: Thu Jan 01, 2009 10:43 am
Yeah... Chairman Bob... I thought that was just a dismissive against the RCP, but then when I met some people from the US, they told me how that whas what they actually called him... Really scary. Not as bad as the Healyites though... They were ********/> (They were in England, imploded in the early '80s. They had a colour paper, daily. Guess how it was funded: by giving the identities of communists in various arab countries to the local rulers... Yeah: they funded their so called communist newspaper by naming names for tinpot dictators to kill... That was admitted by the membership, though each faction was saying it was the others, and all were pushing it onto Healy, and the various individuals were claiming ignorance... Ugh.) Quote: CPUSA will only spew pro democratic party bullshit. Pro Obama Pro democrates thats it from there newspapers really. RCP will just state Fascism every other word and proclaim it to be genious. For ******** sake! why do I have so much in parentheses?
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Posted: Thu Jan 01, 2009 4:18 pm
SoViEtTaNkT34 Gracchvs Well, the CP of whatever country you are in. I don't know if they list their local branches online though. Check their site or Gallenger can give you a link if they do, though if there are any demonstrations near you soon, they would probably be there with a table and would save you the effort of tracking them down. The table would probably have copies of the manifesto, state and revolution and proletarian revolution, though maybe they are exactly like the CP here and no longer sell the original works at public events, but only commentaries and such. You may want to grab their paper and compare their arguments and propositions and demands with mine. I think you will see who is more orthodox (hint: I are orthodox), whether you end up agreeing with the orthodoxy or not. CPUSA will only spew pro democratic party bullshit. Pro Obama Pro democrats that's it from there newspapers really. RCP will just state Fascism every other word and proclaim it to be genius. In fact the language used is even more dumb foundingly easy then Marx. At least Marx, Lenin, Althusser etc pose a challenge for the reader to comprehend. But its basically the question of is it raising social consciousness to dumb down Marx so that idiotic people can understand it or for the dumb to rise to understand Marx? CPUSA in Mass is in Cambridge. He can also go to the RCP as well if he wants books. The RCP bookstores are pretty good although you have to listen to the nagging of the Bob ******** think Stalin was too mechanical".. says a bobby supporter " I think Marxist-Leninism and even Marx is mechanical for how else is it to be a science if it wasn't?" He didn't really like that statement and let me go on to pick up what books I wanted. Also pro-Patrick papers, of how he going to save the environment, while actually destroy it. Aren't most newspapers only require fifth grade reading level these days? Where about is the RCP bookstore, I walked all around Cambridge, I may have overlooked it.
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Posted: Fri Jan 02, 2009 12:55 am
Oh so they're in Cambridge? 40 minutes away and i had no idea :/
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Posted: Sun Jan 04, 2009 6:24 pm
All_Fear_Feuerbach Oh so they're in Cambridge? 40 minutes away and i had no idea :/ So You, hawkings and I live in MA?
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Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2009 4:45 am
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Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 5:05 am
Just to try and get this thread back on its original road, I shall repost the OP and politely ask others to not natter too much about stuff that isn't related to the OP. (Or at least put some stuff toward the OP in the post as well, be it a question, or a serious answer to someone else's question) Quote: Please, sit down and relax. Yes, this will most likely turn into a thread where myself and another senior member of the guild argue a really long-winder and intricate argument about some minor point of a side-track that just happens to have world shattering implications.
However, that is not the point of the thread, merely the likely result.
For the newbies who consider themselves communist and want to learn about communism, what are your main questions?
Is there any theory you have heard about but don't know what it is?
Is there a term you do not understand?
Do you want books to tell you stuff but don't know what books have what stuff?
Ask away, and myself or one of the others (often both) will (try to) help you out.
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Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 3:51 pm
wait i unfortunately dont have a cp branch anywhere near me
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Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 5:50 pm
Hmm. Are there any demonstrations or protests any time soon? leftists will be there, and I am sure a group calling itself communist will be there with some of marx's stuff.
If not, there are still the links. They may not be hardcopy, but at least you can read them.
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