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Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2009 2:18 pm
lymelady Rainbowfied Mouse Scar tissue isn't 'bad' it just is tissue that is more rough, the process works because the lining of the uterus is where the fertilized egg needs to attach too, so in basic terms the egg doesn't attach to the uterus, and is ejected at the menstruation period, I assume. Scar tissue on major organs that are necessary like your liver (cirrhosis) is bad however. I don't think it works quite like that. This is about the fallopian tubes, not the uterus. What you're talking about involves the endometrium, but this procedure keeps the sperm from ever reaching the eggs because the fallopian tubes are blocked. I wonder whether this has a heightened risk of ectopic pregnancy, actually, since there's a failure rate. That's something else I wondered; What happens to the eggs? I mean, do they just build up on the other side of the fallopian tubes? Are they absorbed after a certain amount of time?
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Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2009 4:17 pm
I.Am lymelady Rainbowfied Mouse Scar tissue isn't 'bad' it just is tissue that is more rough, the process works because the lining of the uterus is where the fertilized egg needs to attach too, so in basic terms the egg doesn't attach to the uterus, and is ejected at the menstruation period, I assume. Scar tissue on major organs that are necessary like your liver (cirrhosis) is bad however. I don't think it works quite like that. This is about the fallopian tubes, not the uterus. What you're talking about involves the endometrium, but this procedure keeps the sperm from ever reaching the eggs because the fallopian tubes are blocked. I wonder whether this has a heightened risk of ectopic pregnancy, actually, since there's a failure rate. That's something else I wondered; What happens to the eggs? I mean, do they just build up on the other side of the fallopian tubes? Are they absorbed after a certain amount of time? I don't know. That's something I've always wondered with a passing thought and then never looked into. And see, I'm about to do it again.
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Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 12:17 am
I.Am lymelady Rainbowfied Mouse Scar tissue isn't 'bad' it just is tissue that is more rough, the process works because the lining of the uterus is where the fertilized egg needs to attach too, so in basic terms the egg doesn't attach to the uterus, and is ejected at the menstruation period, I assume. Scar tissue on major organs that are necessary like your liver (cirrhosis) is bad however. I don't think it works quite like that. This is about the fallopian tubes, not the uterus. What you're talking about involves the endometrium, but this procedure keeps the sperm from ever reaching the eggs because the fallopian tubes are blocked. I wonder whether this has a heightened risk of ectopic pregnancy, actually, since there's a failure rate. That's something else I wondered; What happens to the eggs? I mean, do they just build up on the other side of the fallopian tubes? Are they absorbed after a certain amount of time? I don't know what happens to the eggs, I don't think they would just go into early menopause. Far as I know the body will stil release the eggs. And scar tissue can be bad and cause higher risk of ectopic pregnancies (I've been studying things like endometriosis which often involves scar tissue which builds up over time). But this is also different.
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Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 9:16 pm
Coils in the fallopian tubes keep the eggs from implanting in the tubes or in the uterus. Basically the coil keeps the egg in the fallopian tube and keeps the sperm from ever reaching the egg. Apparently everything gets flushed out as usual during your normal menstruation. There's no risk of ectopic pregnancy because the sperm and egg can never meet. It's typically a 30 minute procedure that's not under general anesthesia and you can be back to your normal self within a day.
Even though I'm only 28, I do know that I do not want children and have been talking to my doctor about possibly having this procedure done as well as an ablation. ^_^ I'll try to keep you all update with as much info as I can get. XP
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Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 10:41 pm
Nangoku Coils in the fallopian tubes keep the eggs from implanting in the tubes or in the uterus. Basically the coil keeps the egg in the fallopian tube and keeps the sperm from ever reaching the egg. Apparently everything gets flushed out as usual during your normal menstruation. There's no risk of ectopic pregnancy because the sperm and egg can never meet. It's typically a 30 minute procedure that's not under general anesthesia and you can be back to your normal self within a day.
Even though I'm only 28, I do know that I do not want children and have been talking to my doctor about possibly having this procedure done as well as an ablation. ^_^ I'll try to keep you all update with as much info as I can get. XP I was talking about scar tissue in general, not the procedure (so you don't get confused).
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Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2009 11:32 am
Nangoku Coils in the fallopian tubes keep the eggs from implanting in the tubes or in the uterus. Basically the coil keeps the egg in the fallopian tube and keeps the sperm from ever reaching the egg. Apparently everything gets flushed out as usual during your normal menstruation. There's no risk of ectopic pregnancy because the sperm and egg can never meet. But the egg and sperm supposedly never meet because the egg is stopped in the fallopian tube, right? And that's also where ectopic pregnancies usually occur. So it seems to me that that would make ectopic pregnancies a higher risk; If the egg stays in the fallopian tube, all the sperm has to do is get there. And how is the egg flushed out during menstruation if the egg is stuck in the fallopian tube?
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Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2009 8:40 pm
Nangoku Coils in the fallopian tubes keep the eggs from implanting in the tubes or in the uterus. Basically the coil keeps the egg in the fallopian tube and keeps the sperm from ever reaching the egg. Apparently everything gets flushed out as usual during your normal menstruation. There's no risk of ectopic pregnancy because the sperm and egg can never meet. It's typically a 30 minute procedure that's not under general anesthesia and you can be back to your normal self within a day.
Even though I'm only 28, I do know that I do not want children and have been talking to my doctor about possibly having this procedure done as well as an ablation. ^_^ I'll try to keep you all update with as much info as I can get. XP Except that there's a failure rate on it, which means you can get pregnant. It's very, very low, but if that can happen, then I would think ectopic pregnancies would be a higher risk than normal.
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Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2009 8:58 pm
lymelady I wonder whether this has a heightened risk of ectopic pregnancy, actually, since there's a failure rate. I was wondering this myself, actually. confused Since an ectopic pregnancy is simply one where the fertilized egg implants anywhere but within the inner uterine lining, they'd have to make it impossible for the egg to become fertilized in the first place to prevent that. Granted, if the Oviducts are completely sealed off by scar tissue-buildup then an egg would never enter the area attached to the uterus so fertilization would be nigh-impossible, right? I don't know.... This sounds kind of weird to me, actually. I have a friend that had "swollen" ovaries in the past and they were causing her a lot of pain, I imagine that this sort of thing would make the woman feel uncomfortable to say the least.
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Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2009 9:05 pm
I.Am And how is the egg flushed out during menstruation if the egg is stuck in the fallopian tube? This sort of thing was recently brought up in my Biology class. Apparently, its a less-common (though natural) occurrence for a particular month's fertilized ovum to not make it into the fallopian tubes. The fallopian tubes (oviducts) and the ovaries are not attached, so the finger-like extensions on the end of the oviducts sway about, usually catching the egg and pushing it along the inside (partially due to a current that's created by tiny hairs inside the tube - much like the same hairs in the ear canal that help move sound) If the egg doesn't make it into the fallopian tubes, the cell will be broken down and recycled by the body once it is found elsewhere in the abdominal cavity. (And the woman might have a late or missed period) I imagine it would be the same in the case of a woman having gone through this procedure. But I'm not sure if making this happen all the time would affect the woman negatively somehow.
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Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2009 12:21 am
Kasumi Ocada I.Am And how is the egg flushed out during menstruation if the egg is stuck in the fallopian tube? This sort of thing was recently brought up in my Biology class. Apparently, its a less-common (though natural) occurrence for a particular month's fertilized ovum to not make it into the fallopian tubes. The fallopian tubes (oviducts) and the ovaries are not attached, so the finger-like extensions on the end of the oviducts sway about, usually catching the egg and pushing it along the inside (partially due to a current that's created by tiny hairs inside the tube - much like the same hairs in the ear canal that help move sound) If the egg doesn't make it into the fallopian tubes, the cell will be broken down and recycled by the body once it is found elsewhere in the abdominal cavity. (And the woman might have a late or missed period) I imagine it would be the same in the case of a woman having gone through this procedure. But I'm not sure if making this happen all the time would affect the woman negatively somehow. Having the egg break down does make sense, I need to check into it and study more about it. Something similar to that is the seasonique pill-as with those pills you don't ovulate and the ovum/egg doesn't pass through the fallopian tubes to the uterus.
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Posted: Sat Aug 22, 2009 8:12 pm
My aunt got her tubes tied when she was under 30 and she regrets it because now we are catholic and your supposed to have as many kids as God wills. So i dont agree with tube tying and sterilization anyway.
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Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2009 7:38 am
Great this is all we need. a permanent solution to the horrific troubles of bringing new life into this world. If more people would trust in God, we wouldn't need any of these procedures to begin with. That's what menopause is for, If you don't want kids, don't have sex, or use NFP. Really if people would just stop looking at sex as the end all be all of life. This wouldn't be a problem.
Today's society has made us afraid to have children. I mean, my friend, who just had a child, feels it reprehensible to have a certain number of children under a certain age. Children are not a burden to society. It's society that's a burden to children.
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Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 1:33 pm
Melosta Great this is all we need. a permanent solution to the horrific troubles of bringing new life into this world. If more people would trust in God, we wouldn't need any of these procedures to begin with. That's what menopause is for, If you don't want kids, don't have sex, or use NFP. Really if people would just stop looking at sex as the end all be all of life. This wouldn't be a problem. Today's society has made us afraid to have children. I mean, my friend, who just had a child, feels it reprehensible to have a certain number of children under a certain age. Children are not a burden to society. It's society that's a burden to children. Your argument is faulty because it starts with the assumption that there is a God in whom to trust. It is also faulty because it acts like we should trust God to do everything for us. God helps those who help themselves. Why wouldn't God allow us to use contraceptives in order to help ourselves? Children are great blessings, but not at every moment in our lives. I couldn't take care of a kid right now. I'm working full time at a minimum wage job at the moment, and I'm barely making enough money to take care of myself. I trust in God, but I also trust that God wants me to try to take care of myself, and that when I do that, God will guide my way. Oh, and your last statement? About children not being a burden to society, society is a burden to children? What in the world is that even supposed to mean?
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Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 4:19 pm
Melosta Great this is all we need. a permanent solution to the horrific troubles of bringing new life into this world. If more people would trust in God, we wouldn't need any of these procedures to begin with. That's what menopause is for, If you don't want kids, don't have sex, or use NFP. Really if people would just stop looking at sex as the end all be all of life. This wouldn't be a problem. Today's society has made us afraid to have children. I mean, my friend, who just had a child, feels it reprehensible to have a certain number of children under a certain age. Children are not a burden to society. It's society that's a burden to children. I agree with you that society has placed a huge burden on children, but I agree with Andy about the birth control...mostly. I read a really good article once that made me reconsider the abundance of birth control in our society and how it affects our view of pregnancy. It pointed out that it's shifted us from seeing pregnancy as the natural consequence of sex to seeing it as a mistake, something we must fix. On a personal level, I feel that birth control's societal side effects are not entirely safe. At the same time, this is not a perfect world. People have sex when they aren't ready to be parents, and in my view, birth control is much better than abortion. Something like 49% of people who have abortions didn't use any form of contraception. Given a 95% chance of pregnancy prevention (a low number, really) that's a whole lot of abortions that could have been prevented. Of course, those numbers come from the AGI and they are financially tied to Planned Parenthood. I can certainly see a monetary reason to skew those numbers to get more funding, but the point still stands that birth control definitely prevents abortions.
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Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 8:58 pm
the problem is that society is threatened by people having many children. Just look at China. The number of children a family can have is enforced. Males are highly prized, girls are not. If you try to have more than the government regulated number of children, you are forced to get an abortion. If you somehow manage to elude the government and they find out about extra children, infanticide is then committed, while you watch, as punishment. If you try to evade the law, they don't just punish you, they come after your family.
What I mean about society being a burden to children is this. How many times have you heard someone or you, yourself, made a comment about how many children a person should have. Do you feel that people should only have a certain amount of children? Any more than that number and they are a 'burden'?
I personally am getting sick of the 'I want my cake and get to eat it too' attitude to today's values. Just because you want it, doesn't make it good for you and just because you want it, doesn't make it right. I look at it as one more way for the government to force sterilization on people. Now they have a quick and relatively painless way. They could even do it without your permission. Paranoia? No, not with the way other countries are doing it. I'd be surprised if China wasn't adopting this new type of sterilization now. Really what's wrong with learning a little self-control. Stop blaming hormones and desire and stop being so base. How many times have you made fun of a woman for wearing revealing clothing, yet done so yourself. All birth control, abortion and this new sterilization has done and will do is give men even more power over us. Don't say it hasn't. Now men will have one more way to get us to stop bearing their children. All those things have done and will continue to do is destroy marriage and the family unit.
Birth control is a fallacy, a lie. It gives neither control nor birth. It's not foolproof, it's not a total guarantee, even when properly used. Condoms break, the pill can be aborticient (contrary to popular belief, it's not a contraceptive as it does not prevent conception) and that's if it's used properly, and abortion is the biggest fallacy of them all.
It all teaches us to not be responsible for our actions. That there are no consequences to suffer. We need to understand that we are responsible for what we do and how we present ourselves. All of us are examples to others, we are all role models. Each one of us needs to stop letting society dictate our actions and thoughts when we know it to be wrong.
Society today places the blame on women for getting pregnant. Pregnancy is something to be ashamed of. Women are told that they must have perfectly healthy babies, else there is no point in giving birth. We need to stop telling women that pregnancy is a burden, a horrible thing, something to 'endure'.
Yes this isn't a perfect world. That doesn't mean we should be complacent with things that make natural human reproduction abhorrent or the process of it so base.
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