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Tony Redgrave?
Is that sparda? ...? o__o Im confused, ive never heard of that before. and i know alot about DMC, but not everything. The only people that know the most are the developers. X) and storyline board.
But tony? who is he? XD;;;
(then again i havent finished the 2nd dmc... i got bored because its so emotionless. finished the rest though.)

I do wish they would bring lady back. I barely saw her in the 4th game, which was a huge dissapointment. Shes my favorite female character of all videogames! She kicks a**.

oh wo. i didnt know that....
You learn something new everyday.
Thats a neat fact...
Here i thought the game came first. And the novel came afterward.
But i have heard of a Devil May Cry novel that wasnt revolved around the gamebase. Never thought about reading that one though, i didnt think it was related to the characters...
Thank you. :3

rofl Don't hate on the name. ...Okay, hate on the name, but at least hate the fact that Dante's made out to be weaker in the novel than in any of the games, and in all serious business, got saved by the plot in his fight against Gilver. That was the biggest insult to any of the canon.

o3o and can I ask why you thought the manga was horrible? (Looking at it now, I think it's horrible too, but I'd like to hear your reason. xD)

but you do get to be Dante, for part of it.

xd I've seen manga drawn worse. I thought you were going to point out random oddities in it, like Rebellion's awakening in the mansion, or the fact that Dante notices Lady's picture when he busts into the mansion to rescue Alice but doesn't really acknowledge anything about her in the game, the part where Lady hides in Dante's bathroom one moment (in manga) but tries to blast the s**t out of him the next (in game), all the needless (or just plain wrong) dialogue/translations in the Tokyopop version, or... Never mind.

Now, what was so bad about the anime (which I also happen to think is pretty horrible)?

If I may add my two cents...:/ I happened to have enjoyed the novel, manga and anime to some degree.

Novel:
Just recently read it -- yes, I realise, it's not canon, but if you ask me, it was really well written. It seems to me like this novel could have been written by Dante himself. The words used and such. It was filled with emotion and action and even I felt the anger/sadness/etc. at the designated parts.

And I think it's a little unfair to not like something just because of a simple name. Tony Redgrave is definitely something I could see Dante coming up with, especially considering if implies that Dante was a kid at the time of choosing the name. [correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't recall it ever specifically saying when, but to me it seems to be implied that he was younger when choosing it] He's a mercenary, not an artist. You need to take into account that creativity is the least of his worries.

Manga:
Honestly, I thought it was well drawn. Most people can't realise it's the style it was drawn in that is where people have the problem. It's messy, yes, but not without reason. The messiness compliments the dark, grittiness that accompanies most of the Devil May Cry series. Proportions, authenticity and such were spot on.

I liked the concept of naming the statues and how they represent the sins. :> I've always gotten a kick out of the seven sins, the elements and other such things, so, I enjoyed it.

Plus, I'm an Alice's Adventures in Wonderland freak too, so that reference made me smile. :> [Where's the Chesire caaaattt? D<]

Yes, the storyline has loopholes, etc. etc., but it's enjoyable if you just take it as a story instead of connecting it completely to canon. Obviously, this isn't canon. Just enjoy it. Seriously, if you can do better, I'd like to see you try. [I say this with the least bit of offensiveness as possible! o.o]

My biggest problem with the manga was that there were planned to be three and yet only two have been put out. It really pisses me off when artists do this. If you're not going to see a project completely through, then don't show it to the public and get people liking/disliking it. You'll only end up with more people disliking it.

Anime:
Didn't like it nearly as much as I wish I could. I liked the music and some of the missions, but this is where the art really could've been better and so on. The style itself is nice, but not working for Devil May Cry. Dante...simply didn't seem to look like Dante. :/ Spmething about the face...[I'm mad picky about faces...] and it's the same for Trish and Lady. Their faces seemed almost masculine to me and it really irked me. Although, I found it interesting to just sit back and enjoy generally. I guess what I'm trying to say by that is just to look at it like a fanfiction; it's not guaranteed to be canon, there's bound to be mistakes, so just put your own interpretation of the real thing aside for just a little bit to enjoy what good there is in it.

I can name a lot of crap I didn't like, a lot of stuff that really just should've been better [and really could've, I'm a bit disappointed with it when I think about all of the negatives.], but I guess that's the weird thing about me; I'm open minded enough to just enjoy something as long as it doesn't cross the line with ridiculousness.

I guess these really must've crossed the line for you guys, which is fine, I don't mean to say you're wrong completely, I'd just like to point out that there are good things to them and it's possibile to enjoy it. :3

But most of all, you're taking a video game and turning it into other types of medias. You have to expect imperfection, especially considering Devil May Cry has been taking on a series of crew switching right from the start anyway. If I have my sources right, DMCII and beyond are all made by different people than DMCI, which is why none of the games or anything else in the fandom will ever hold a candle to the first game. [my personal favourite]

PS. I own two of the comics; they were very nicely done as well. biggrin ~ I'm trying to find the two I'm missing so I can complete the collection. :3~

@"n_niji arkoiris" : Of course it's unfair to not like something over a name, but it's how far the name continues to extend into already existing canon that can make a fan mad at the novel. The novel isn't canon anymore-- it used to be, but with the game making the plot (and timeline) of the novel go "HA HA DISREGARD; I SUCK EGGS", no one bothers to acknowledge the Tony Redgrave nonsense.

The manga is the spinoff that is supposed to exist alongside DMC3, explaining the events happening a year before the game (Pretty much to add onto Dante's "It's been a year since we last met" line) So it's supposed to be the real canon in place of the novel. Not just some doujinshi done for the lulz. No real problem with this except the continuous loopholes that it really shouldn't have (and the engraving on Dante's guns if you ever get a close look at them).

(Speaking of being able to write better, while I really can't speak for myself, go to fanfiction.net and read Laryna6's work. It takes some serious creative skill to tie in elements of the novel, manga, anime, etc. and make it believable. Even the Viewtiful Joe cameo makes sense, and THAT was for the lulz.)

The anime: The animated 'done for profit, not lulz' explanation to the events between DMC1 and 4, which actually did cross the line in ridiculousness. Take what I said about Tony Redgrave 'not existing' due to contradiction by DMC3 and add it here, since according to the now-canon manga/game, the story goes that Dante saw his mother die and just up and left, not bothering to change his name and simply moving to another town and training/running a demon hunting business until the appearance of Vergil (NOT GILVER).

Episode 8, was a nod to the novel (or just the alias) that throws everything out of whack, what with Ernest insisting that Dante WAS Tony Redgrave and had lived in THEIR town 20 years ago until the demons attacked and Dante's 'supposed to be dead' mother was run out of town and took him with her. The fact that Vergil magically falls off the face of the earth for that piece of the story (and the part where Dante totally proves he's Tony by digging up the treasure box that he and Ernest had buried when they were younger [unless THAT was for lulz/pure coincidence]) crosses the line, and possibly doesn't come back.

All I'm saying is, is that if something is done for profit, backed by Capcom, and is meant to explain any occurence between Point A of "established/undisputed canon" to Point B of "also established/undisputed canon", then it had better hold true to it, otherwise it ends up being in the realm of "stuff that was better as a stand-alone thing".