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 Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 7:38 am
kp is dcvi Mousers09 Texas Gypsy Feh. I wouldn't vote for Hillary if you paid me a million dollars. Obama either. On the whole I'm a Libertarian, but I usually end up voting Republican. Aren't libertarians prochoice? Ron Paul is a Pro-life Libertarian, I believe. Too bad he isn't winning the primaries.
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Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2008 7:25 am
I.Am McPhee I find it offensive that you'd call Hilary a "whore". Whores don't run for president. Hey! It's America. Anyone can run for President. wink Seriously though, divine, you shouldn't call names. It's so petty. And it makes you look like a stereotypical, sexist Republican. I don't like Hillary either, partially for the same reasons. Personally, I don't like anyone who's running for office, except maybe Ron Paul. But even then, I don't trust politicians. I'm still going to write in Steven Colbert for my vote. But on subject, am I reading the OP correctly that Hillary supports the removal of a fetus the whole pregnancy long, rather than the abortion of the fetus? You even say that she supports it as long as the head is alive when it hits air, which would mean that she does not in fact support partial birth abortions. In partial birth abortions the fetus/baby (It's really late term) is removed legs first then killed before the head can exit the body, because the law says, I believe, that once the head has left the body it's been born. If I'm reading that right, it actually raises my respect for her. I've been saying all along that a more sensible road to take, if they really are all about bodily domain, is to remove the fetus as alive as possible, as that way you can protect bodily domain without purposefully harming the fetus. I'm not republican either. She just seems very fake to me. She clearly knows she is a woman running for president, and uses this for leverage.
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Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2008 11:31 am
divineseraph I'm not republican either. Than you should like even less that it makes you look like one. wink
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Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2008 11:39 pm
divineseraph I'm not republican either. She just seems very fake to me. She clearly knows she is a woman running for president, and uses this for leverage.
The people who seem the most fake to me are the ones who've already proved that they're liars.
Like Bush. biggrin
Anyway. Unnecessary bashing aside...
I like Hilary because she's shown that she's a woman who can stand beside the men. She's different from the men because she's a woman, that's obvious. Hilary can't win, and I don't like it. If she doesn't draw attention to her femininity, she's avoiding the issue, and if she does, she's using it for leverage. It's like that with Hilary, and everything.
However, I will concede that I find it a slap in the face that she's not for gay rights. I have to read more about what she specifically does or does not support about gay rights, but as of right now, that's very disappointing to me to learn that.
I mean, honey needs to stick up for the disenfranchised. She's a woman, she should know better.
Though if I were to say that, then I'd have to apply the same logic to Ann Coulter, and I don't think I want to do that. She is such a mouthpiece.
PLEASE concede that Hil is better than Coulter. Or even Condi. There are worse people in American politics.
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Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 6:17 pm
I.Am divineseraph I'm not republican either. Than you should like even less that it makes you look like one. wink Appearance is just that- an appearance. I like what I like. Just because I am against abortion does not mean that I am evangelical. Just becuase I am against war does not mean that I smoke pot in a van by the river. I may fall into certain categories of each, but none of them define me and none of them fit perfectly.
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Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 7:45 pm
divineseraph I.Am divineseraph I'm not republican either. Than you should like even less that it makes you look like one. wink Appearance is just that- an appearance. I like what I like. Just because I am against abortion does not mean that I am evangelical. Just becuase I am against war does not mean that I smoke pot in a van by the river. I may fall into certain categories of each, but none of them define me and none of them fit perfectly. I... Am really not getting what your reply has to do with my post. I am not saying that you -are- a Republican, I'm saying that your derogatory comments about Mrs. Clinton makes you sound like a foaming at the mouth Republican. See the difference there; In one case, I say you are one. In the other, I say you look like one. See? You are not one, but your comments make you appear to be one. Which means you probably shouldn't make comments like that, since you are not one, and thus would not want to look like one. Am I getting across to you here? In my original post, I am just calling for decency, and civility; Just because you don't like a politician doesn't mean that you should start baselessly insulting them. Does Hillary Clinton have sex with men and/or women for money? I highly doubt it. Does Hillary Clinton even dress in skimpy clothes, hang out at clubs, get drunk in public, or in any other way act like a floozy? Thank God, no. Thus, she is not a whore, and to call her a whore just makes you look like a sexist b*****d and hurts everyone who shares your opinion that Hillary Clinton should not be President.
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Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 9:28 pm
I.Am divineseraph I.Am divineseraph I'm not republican either. Than you should like even less that it makes you look like one. wink Appearance is just that- an appearance. I like what I like. Just because I am against abortion does not mean that I am evangelical. Just becuase I am against war does not mean that I smoke pot in a van by the river. I may fall into certain categories of each, but none of them define me and none of them fit perfectly. I... Am really not getting what your reply has to do with my post. I am not saying that you -are- a Republican, I'm saying that your derogatory comments about Mrs. Clinton makes you sound like a foaming at the mouth Republican. See the difference there; In one case, I say you are one. In the other, I say you look like one. See? You are not one, but your comments make you appear to be one. Which means you probably shouldn't make comments like that, since you are not one, and thus would not want to look like one. Am I getting across to you here? In my original post, I am just calling for decency, and civility; Just because you don't like a politician doesn't mean that you should start baselessly insulting them. Does Hillary Clinton have sex with men and/or women for money? I highly doubt it. Does Hillary Clinton even dress in skimpy clothes, hang out at clubs, get drunk in public, or in any other way act like a floozy? Thank God, no. Thus, she is not a whore, and to call her a whore just makes you look like a sexist b*****d and hurts everyone who shares your opinion that Hillary Clinton should not be President.
Coming from someone who I know doesn't like Hilary that much either, that makes me happy.
I'm totally into you, now. Not that I wasn't anyway, but this adds to it. XDkidding!~ Please don't tell my boyfriend! crying
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Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 10:19 pm
Kate says it's cute that you've got a gay crush on me, and now she's jealous and wants to get a sex change so you'll have a gay crush on her. XD
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Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 10:20 am
Well...not that I agree with calling her names...but there are different meanings for calling someone a whore, like a media whore, an attention whore, etc. One definition of whore is to compromise yourself for some personal gain. It can be argued that all politicians are whores because all politicians pander and do things they don't really believe in because it gets them votes, but, I wouldn't say Hillary is any more whorish in that sense than most politicians.
I pretty much agree with Andy and Adrian. Calling her a whore is an automatic tune-out from anyone who might have listened to your points. It's just plain in your best interest to at least be civil, more people will listen to you. If you choose not to, that's your choice, but don't expect to change minds, and I'd assume that's really what would be in your best interest if you don't want her to be president, convince people not to vote for her.
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Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 2:35 pm
lymelady Well...not that I agree with calling her names...but there are different meanings for calling someone a whore, like a media whore, an attention whore, etc. One definition of whore is to compromise yourself for some personal gain. It can be argued that all politicians are whores because all politicians pander and do things they don't really believe in because it gets them votes, but, I wouldn't say Hillary is any more whorish in that sense than most politicians. I pretty much agree with Andy and Adrian. Calling her a whore is an automatic tune-out from anyone who might have listened to your points. It's just plain in your best interest to at least be civil, more people will listen to you. If you choose not to, that's your choice, but don't expect to change minds, and I'd assume that's really what would be in your best interest if you don't want her to be president, convince people not to vote for her. Good news then, I don't really care about the presidential debate- It's mostly bullshit anyway, they'll lie to make you feel good, then the corporate sponsors decide who wins anyway. It's all just a game, really.
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Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 8:20 pm
divineseraph lymelady Well...not that I agree with calling her names...but there are different meanings for calling someone a whore, like a media whore, an attention whore, etc. One definition of whore is to compromise yourself for some personal gain. It can be argued that all politicians are whores because all politicians pander and do things they don't really believe in because it gets them votes, but, I wouldn't say Hillary is any more whorish in that sense than most politicians. I pretty much agree with Andy and Adrian. Calling her a whore is an automatic tune-out from anyone who might have listened to your points. It's just plain in your best interest to at least be civil, more people will listen to you. If you choose not to, that's your choice, but don't expect to change minds, and I'd assume that's really what would be in your best interest if you don't want her to be president, convince people not to vote for her. Good news then, I don't really care about the presidential debate- It's mostly bullshit anyway, they'll lie to make you feel good, then the corporate sponsors decide who wins anyway. It's all just a game, really. Ah? What sources do you have to back up this claim?
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Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 6:06 am
The fact that it is impossible for any mortal to become president. You need vast amounts of wealth in order to stand a chance, or else television will never air you, you will never get an ad out, and you will be sent into obscurity before truly having a chance. being president is a game for the rich and powerful, helped along by corporate sponsors to vote in favor of their companies or, in the case of Bush/Cheney, start wars to promote business for those companies.
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Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 11:51 am
divineseraph The fact that it is impossible for any mortal to become president. You need vast amounts of wealth in order to stand a chance, or else television will never air you, you will never get an ad out, and you will be sent into obscurity before truly having a chance. being president is a game for the rich and powerful, helped along by corporate sponsors to vote in favor of their companies or, in the case of Bush/Cheney, start wars to promote business for those companies. Ignoring your mostly baseless accusations towards past and present Presidents, I'll point out that Obama, who seems to be the most likely winner right now, is fairly new to the politics game. Nice conspiracy theory, though it is starting to get a little old and boring.
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