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Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2005 12:55 pm
Tobarish Krolik obsideon I don't really believe in communism. Too many problems can arise in a communist state that could potentially a nation. Besides, If I'm more skill and a harder worker than a person should I get paid more? Yeah but if thats the case, our government and business heirarchy is based on people that dont deserve their position or pay. Today theres millions of people who work as hard and efficiently as possible, yet are neglected. Communism equalizes that problem. And hey as far as facism goes, the reason so many people blamed the jews in germany is because the citizens couldnt work, their economy was being endebted to hell, and the jews were commonly blamed for having all the money. Technically communism would have caused the entire Nazi movement to never exist. Money could be found everywhere... the problem is that the wheelbarrel carrying it was worth more then the money in it. So your point does not make any sense what so ever and by the way Marx was jewish.
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Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2005 5:32 am
The topic-starter's problem isn't with the economic form of communism insofar as the oppressive methods that vanguard parties typically use when running the state. Nazis don't primarily focus on state economics. It's rather the cultural, or the political aspect of the nationstate that most nazis salivate over. The whole "the culture created by my ancestors can beat the s**t out of the culture created by your ancestors" line of crap. I don't think Hitler gave much mind to how the economy was managed, so long as he could rule Germany with an iron fist and wage war for the glory of a shitload of dead people..
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Posted: Sun Nov 20, 2005 6:39 pm
SoViEtTaNkT34 Tobarish Krolik obsideon I don't really believe in communism. Too many problems can arise in a communist state that could potentially a nation. Besides, If I'm more skill and a harder worker than a person should I get paid more? Yeah but if thats the case, our government and business heirarchy is based on people that dont deserve their position or pay. Today theres millions of people who work as hard and efficiently as possible, yet are neglected. Communism equalizes that problem. And hey as far as facism goes, the reason so many people blamed the jews in germany is because the citizens couldnt work, their economy was being endebted to hell, and the jews were commonly blamed for having all the money. Technically communism would have caused the entire Nazi movement to never exist. Money could be found everywhere... the problem is that the wheelbarrel carrying it was worth more then the money in it. So your point does not make any sense what so ever and by the way Marx was jewish. I guess I worded that wrong then, but it was known as a major reason for people to ally against the jews. Jews have always been blamed for being rich. When in all truth, as a community, they were as strong as they could be. Inside their religious sect, the people helped new jewish businesses to reach a steady ground. They worked, technically in a communistic sense.
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Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 9:30 am
I say that the Nazi regime was far more destructive than russian communism! Facism is based souly on a dictator's beleifs and this dictator controls the entire country! every aspect of its government. The Nazis aimed to rid the world of all "undesireables" and prettymuch any one that was not of Germanic decent! They aimed to kill off everyone but themselves. That kind of psychotic genocide is only capable of a facist government. Communism is strict but communism is friendly to the worker and the workers rights. Communism, as intended by Carl Marx, was aimed to create a better world for the worker and the lower/middle class. Facism's soul perpous is to gain control of a country and destroy the problems it has (They always have strong religious influences and any one who dose not fit thier beleifs can easily loose their rights, and in the situation with the Nazis even their lives)
communism is to help the worker and structure the government so that it is fair and equal for all people! Fascism is a dictatorial government aimed to oppress those that are in power do not like! (kind of like what is happening in the US government right now, The Bush Regime is very close to a mild Facism. and this scares me alot.)
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Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 9:35 am
neither are good! in my eyes Facism is more regressive and destructive to a nation, but communism allows for too much corruption and control. the problem is the extremity of both of them! fascism is on one end of hte spectrum and communism is on the other! the problem is that when extreams are used things become easily unstable.
neither communism nor facism are much of a good thing for a country. In my eyes the utopia would be a moderation between the two! kind of what the Founding fathers had envisioned with the US Constitution. central control, but evenly broken appart so that power is not too great.
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Posted: Sun May 21, 2006 5:59 am
I don't think communism is *that* bad, but it just doesn't work for humans. I mean, you get the same salary even if you work harder? Or less? That just doesn't make sense to us, and also the fact that the government is in control of basically everything. Maybe it could work for ants, but not us. It pretty much sets too many limits. Seriously. Look at all the countries that went communist. Almost all of them are doing really bad right now.
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Posted: Sun May 21, 2006 7:55 am
I think Communism is good ^^
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Posted: Sun May 21, 2006 8:15 am
i am very anti communism. my mom is from south vietnam and came here after the war and she said it was horrible. they wouldn't let you leave the country so you had to get on a boat really late at night or early in the morning. communism is just everything the same. samesamesame. no individuality, no nothing. you can't worship the way you want. in vietnam now there is no freedom of speech. my dad's friend is under house arrest there because he was speaking out against the government. and in tibet they killed the buddhist monks and nuns, even the kiddies. its all just ******** up.
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Posted: Tue May 23, 2006 5:21 pm
Shar_dival the dark elf KaitheRedeemer Neither are good.but communisim is good on paper just had such extremem corruption it failed Why do you think is good on paper? Control people is good? KGB was good? It looks good on paper because it says that there's no poverty and lower-class.
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Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2006 7:17 am
Super 88 Shar_dival the dark elf KaitheRedeemer Neither are good.but communisim is good on paper just had such extremem corruption it failed Why do you think is good on paper? Control people is good? KGB was good? It looks good on paper because it says that there's no poverty and lower-class.Disagree. Marx uses the phrase "Dictatorship of the Proletariet" which is indicative of a society still based on class.
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Posted: Sat Jun 03, 2006 5:52 pm
Famicommie Super 88 Shar_dival the dark elf KaitheRedeemer Neither are good.but communisim is good on paper just had such extremem corruption it failed Why do you think is good on paper? Control people is good? KGB was good? It looks good on paper because it says that there's no poverty and lower-class.Disagree. Marx uses the phrase "Dictatorship of the Proletariet" which is indicative of a society still based on class. True, but they probably try to mention more of the "NO LOWER CLASS NO POVERTY!!" stuff. Point is, it CAN look extremely good on paper. P.S.We shouldn't try comparing Communism in general to Communism in China.
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Posted: Sun Jun 04, 2006 6:44 pm
Super 88 Famicommie Super 88 Shar_dival the dark elf KaitheRedeemer Neither are good.but communisim is good on paper just had such extremem corruption it failed Why do you think is good on paper? Control people is good? KGB was good? It looks good on paper because it says that there's no poverty and lower-class.Disagree. Marx uses the phrase "Dictatorship of the Proletariet" which is indicative of a society still based on class. True, but they probably try to mention more of the "NO LOWER CLASS NO POVERTY!!" stuff. Point is, it CAN look extremely good on paper. P.S.We shouldn't try comparing Communism in general to Communism in China.It CAN look good on paper, much like Objectivism CAN look good on paper. The analysis of a utopian society based on how its ideologues portray it is extremely subjective. Also to be considered is that removing economic classes and the absolute abolishment of all hierarchy are two vastly different things. Under Lenin, Russians recieved different rations based on their stations in life. For further information reference the Kronstadt Rebellion and the Ukranian Black Army.
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Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2006 8:14 am
Marxism is not Utopian.
Why does it look good on paper and not in practice?
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Posted: Sat Jun 10, 2006 6:19 pm
Because those who put it into practice are shameless power-mongers and butchers.
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Posted: Thu Jun 15, 2006 7:30 am
Famicommie Because those who put it into practice are shameless power-mongers and butchers. But those who usually want are not always such things. I think it's usually the Right-Communists.
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