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 Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2005 9:07 pm
Lithanus Coming from a non-christian stand point, I don't blame you. For me, I have learned much from God and the bible and I try my best to do whats right for Him. After seeing all that He has done for me and the love He has shown me, I have decieded to follow Him and His teachings. That is why I believe the things I do, it is what He wants me to do. 
Ahh.
In my point of view, he's either trynig to toughen me up, or kill me.
{I'd rather face an eternity of pain, than a moment of sorrow.}
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Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2005 5:35 am
Unfortunately that is how the sterotype of our religion goes. Fire and brimestone is how it is displayed, this often comes from the Catholic perspective who love to tell you if they feel you are going to hell. They have no right to tell anyone that, only God can make that jugement. Believe it or not, our religion is actualy about love, peace, and having a close, personal relatioinship with God/Christ. It is very fulfilling. Unfortunately, there is a lot of things you have to understand before you can get the full grasp of christianity. It took my a few years of bible study to find that out.
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Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2005 7:31 am
Lithanus Unfortunately that is how the sterotype of our religion goes. Fire and brimestone is how it is displayed, this often comes from the Catholic perspective who love to tell you if they feel you are going to hell. They have no right to tell anyone that, only God can make that jugement. Believe it or not, our religion is actualy about love, peace, and having a close, personal relatioinship with God/Christ. It is very fulfilling. Unfortunately, there is a lot of things you have to understand before you can get the full grasp of christianity. It took my a few years of bible study to find that out.
Ahh...
I tried to read the bible once but I fell asleep halfway.
Embarrasing moment there... sweatdrop
{I'd rather face an eternity of pain, than a moment of sorrow.}
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Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2005 9:09 am
NexusNS Lithanus Unfortunately that is how the sterotype of our religion goes. Fire and brimestone is how it is displayed, this often comes from the Catholic perspective who love to tell you if they feel you are going to hell. They have no right to tell anyone that, only God can make that jugement. Believe it or not, our religion is actualy about love, peace, and having a close, personal relatioinship with God/Christ. It is very fulfilling. Unfortunately, there is a lot of things you have to understand before you can get the full grasp of christianity. It took my a few years of bible study to find that out.
Ahh...
I tried to read the bible once but I fell asleep halfway.
Embarrasing moment there... sweatdrop
{I'd rather face an eternity of pain, than a moment of sorrow.}
That often happens when you just try to read the bible. The thing is the bible is a collection of writings and oral historys. It is better to study certain parts. Genesis and Exodus are good old testement reading, and John, Romans, and Revelations are good new testement reading. These would be good places to start, but I have found bible studies to be much more effective. Much of the bible has figurative language in it and if you just take it literaly ..... there would be a lot of problems.
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Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2006 2:15 pm
Dr_Pepper_tgns Ok, so what your saying is that, if there is a gay guy [lets call him... Kyle] and he comes to know God and believes and all the good stuff, that he will turn straight? *just for clarifycation* yes. society believes that having a preference for the same sex is natural, and that people are born that way. Christians however believe this is not the case. we believe that God made man and woman to be together. we believe that all men have romatic inclinations and desires for women and vice versa. and just so you know; it happens. people do change from considering themselves gay, to being straight. it happens more than you think.
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Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2006 4:23 pm
bbydaeriel93 Dr_Pepper_tgns Ok, so what your saying is that, if there is a gay guy [lets call him... Kyle] and he comes to know God and believes and all the good stuff, that he will turn straight? *just for clarifycation* yes. society believes that having a preference for the same sex is natural, and that people are born that way. Christians however believe this is not the case. we believe that God made man and woman to be together. we believe that all men have romatic inclinations and desires for women and vice versa. and just so you know; it happens. people do change from considering themselves gay, to being straight. it happens more than you think. God point.
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Posted: Mon Jul 03, 2006 8:38 pm
chikun NoirCheri Dr_Pepper_tgns So what do you mean? that they should repent for being gay sometime and then not be gay after that? or just repent for being gay once and its ok? No, hon. To repent literally means to turn away, to stop, so they would have to turn away from their ways. It is not ok to go back to sinning. That is backsliding. What if they don't want to stop? What if they believe in god, the are the best citizen, gave to all types of charaties. Always fed his fellow country men when they starved. If he abides by all 10 commandments and never even once thought about doing harm to others, but he was gay and had a partner. Does that make him worthless to "heaven:"? Does his good deeds go unnoticed because he loves and lusts for other males as males would love and lust for women? Of course! if they are truly wanting to live for God and in God they'll wanna stop
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Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 10:35 pm
Dr_Pepper_tgns Ok, so what your saying is that, if there is a gay guy [lets call him... Kyle] and he comes to know God and believes and all the good stuff, that he will turn straight? *just for clarifycation* If a gay man denies his feelings for other men and completely just doesn't act upon them, does that make him not gay? And in the Bible isn't it the actual action of sleeping with one of the same sex that is wrong, not the feeling?
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Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 8:55 am
crying ahmores Dr_Pepper_tgns Ok, so what your saying is that, if there is a gay guy [lets call him... Kyle] and he comes to know God and believes and all the good stuff, that he will turn straight? *just for clarifycation* If a gay man denies his feelings for other men and completely just doesn't act upon them, does that make him not gay? And in the Bible isn't it the actual action of sleeping with one of the same sex that is wrong, not the feeling?
I was surprised that no one mentioned it. When we discussed this topic with my youth group, that was one of the things that was brought up. The bible is very clear against the act of two people of the same sex performing sexual acts. However, it says nothing about two people of the same sex loving eachother, because when it boils down, Christianity IS about love. We are all subjected to our temptations and the point is, we are all called to avoid them. Because homosexual actions spring from lust, that makes it no different than a straight couple having sex outside of marriage. Same situation, different temptations.
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Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 1:32 am
The bible says it is wrong.
I don't hate the people at all, I just don't like what they do.
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ThesmilingchocoboofGOD Crew
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Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2007 11:51 am
a few points to consider,
1) God calls us to love the sinner hate the sin
2) Jesus says "If you look upon a woman/man lustfully you are guilty of fonication with that woman.the sins of the heart.
I went to bible collage to learn this
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Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2007 2:25 pm
Allright, Im a gay thirteen year old freshman atheist. Convince me why I should reject my sexuality.
((this is just an experiment. I am all of the above though))
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Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 5:17 am
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Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 5:14 pm
Seeing as Im an atheist/Buddhist: no I don't
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Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2007 6:27 pm
Then I don't see why I should convince you to reject your sexuality, it would make no sense. But I could inform you about our God and why we love Him. There is a lot of misconceptions about our God, due to the fact that a lot of people misrepresent Him.
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