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Deramin

PostPosted: Sat Aug 28, 2004 11:01 am


Estelyn
YARRRGH! FIG wants Hamm to give his gold to Tae-Young--which is outrageous, because he didn't do anything wrong. Jacques Rogge is right; we should just accept the human error that obviously occurred. What will be, will be. That's the way life goes sometimes. Besides, Tae-Young may have received that extra .1 to get gold...but the judges missed an error during his parallel-bar routine that would have cost him .2.

Well, even if International Olympic Comittee decided that Tae-Young did win, the precident is for an appoligy and a second gold. The only times medals are taken back after a meet has been when the athleat has done something to have it revoked (like cheat). Since it was the judges fault, to have Hamm striped of his medal is ludicris. But by issuing that request, the International Olympic Comittee has dug themselve a pit. They can't issue a new medal now, and the American Olympic Comittee is refusing to comply.

The fact is: Olympic Gymnastic judging over the last few Games has been sliding down hill. It's out of controll. They need to take a look at the way similar events are scored and change the system. (Like the Diving events.) There were several things in these games that were unthinkable. (remember how they changed the scoring rules for ..vault? )
PostPosted: Sat Aug 28, 2004 5:58 pm


Deramin
I actually think the audience had every right to snap, even if they did take it a bit too far. That score was rediculasly low. And the audience simply couldn't take the blatent scoring problems anymore. I think what they did was importaint, but I also thing the atmosphear after was such that they should had re-done the compotition the next day.

I agree. The pathetic thing is that they had to be the ones to bring about change. The judges ought to be smart enough to recognize their own error. And it was definitely unfair to the athletes that followed, who actually had to perform amid those raucous cries. However, re-running the competition was pretty much out of the question. Maybe half of one's performance/play is on-the-spot pressure and focus--it differs for different sports--and so you can never guarantee that an athlete will be consistent.
Deramin
Well, even if International Olympic Comittee decided that Tae-Young did win, the precident is for an appoligy and a second gold. The only times medals are taken back after a meet has been when the athleat has done something to have it revoked (like cheat). Since it was the judges fault, to have Hamm striped of his medal is ludicris. But by issuing that request, the International Olympic Comittee has dug themselve a pit. They can't issue a new medal now, and the American Olympic Comittee is refusing to comply.

The fact is: Olympic Gymnastic judging over the last few Games has been sliding down hill. It's out of controll. They need to take a look at the way similar events are scored and change the system. (Like the Diving events.) There were several things in these games that were unthinkable. (remember how they changed the scoring rules for ..vault? )

Ditto. 3nodding I hope what happened at these Olympics will be able to incite much-needed scoring reforms.

Estelyn
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Deramin

PostPosted: Sat Aug 28, 2004 10:55 pm


Estelyn
However, re-running the competition was pretty much out of the question. Maybe half of one's performance/play is on-the-spot pressure and focus--it differs for different sports--and so you can never guarantee that an athlete will be consistent.

I was thought of that after watching the hurdles: if a runner looses her balence/ trips into another runner, that other runner is alowed to ask for the race to be re-run. I was thinking that the same sort of principal might be aplicable to a gymnastics meet where the atmosphere had turned poisonous.
PostPosted: Sun Aug 29, 2004 9:55 am


Deramin
I was thought of that after watching the hurdles: if a runner looses her balence/ trips into another runner, that other runner is alowed to ask for the race to be re-run. I was thinking that the same sort of principal might be aplicable to a gymnastics meet where the atmosphere had turned poisonous.

Ah, I understand. I think I saw the event you're talking about...a Canadian woman fell after the first hurdle and then knocked into the Russian competitor in the lane beside.

Estelyn
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Deramin

PostPosted: Sun Aug 29, 2004 10:47 pm


Estelyn
Ah, I understand. I think I saw the event you're talking about...a Canadian woman fell after the first hurdle and then knocked into the Russian competitor in the lane beside.

Yeah. That's the one.

Or the Brazillian marathon runner from today who got pushed off the track by the Irish crazy. They filed a protest. So they gave him a medal for sportsmanship for dropping it.

But there's a lot more controvercy in Hamm's case. I think the American Olymic Comittee is in the right, here.
PostPosted: Mon Aug 30, 2004 11:24 am


Deramin
Or the Brazillian marathon runner from today who got pushed off the track by the Irish crazy. They filed a protest. So they gave him a medal for sportsmanship for dropping it.

But there's a lot more controvercy in Hamm's case. I think the American Olymic Comittee is in the right, here.

I love that guy. eek If I were him, I think I would have stopped, beat the flying crap out of that guy (hey, I wouldn't know he's mentally ill!), then kept running. But...it's a good thing I'm not. >.<

Definitely. FIG is just trying to cover up their own mistake.

I'm going to miss the Olympics... gonk

Estelyn
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Deramin

PostPosted: Mon Aug 30, 2004 6:12 pm


Estelyn
Deramin
Or the Brazillian marathon runner from today who got pushed off the track by the Irish crazy. They filed a protest. So they gave him a medal for sportsmanship for dropping it.

But there's a lot more controvercy in Hamm's case. I think the American Olymic Comittee is in the right, here.

I love that guy. eek If I were him, I think I would have stopped, beat the flying crap out of that guy (hey, I wouldn't know he's mentally ill!), then kept running. But...it's a good thing I'm not. >.<

Definitely. FIG is just trying to cover up their own mistake.

I'm going to miss the Olympics... gonk

Indeed. But he did actually want to win.

Heh. FIG has changed it's tune (or my sources were wrong before). They're now saying that they won't change the standings. xd

Yeah. They were cool. I got to see all sorts of stuff I've never goten to see before. Still diddn't get to see any fencing, though. gonk
PostPosted: Tue Aug 31, 2004 4:26 pm


Deramin
Indeed. But he did actually want to win.

Heh. FIG has changed it's tune (or my sources were wrong before). They're now saying that they won't change the standings. xd

Yeah. They were cool. I got to see all sorts of stuff I've never goten to see before. Still diddn't get to see any fencing, though. gonk

True. But I can be...shall I say...prone to bouts of rage? xd

Wow! I didn't hear that. Well, I haven't been keeping up with the news lately.

Fencing is cool. Anything that has anything remotely to do with swords is bound to be cool.

Yarr! Today was my first day back at school... gonk

Estelyn
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 01, 2004 7:36 am


( ninja Meh computer's fixed... but I'm still 'grounded' crying )
PostPosted: Wed Sep 01, 2004 2:09 pm


Chokin
( ninja Meh computer's fixed... but I'm still 'grounded' crying )

gonk

Estelyn
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Deramin

PostPosted: Wed Sep 01, 2004 2:22 pm


Chokin
( ninja Meh computer's fixed... but I'm still 'grounded' crying )

That just means you have to be tricksy. wink
PostPosted: Wed Sep 01, 2004 2:59 pm


Hehe I loved watching table top tenis....... thought that was fun fun

My first day was yesterday........ xd

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 02, 2004 3:10 pm


Redbat
Hehe I loved watching table top tenis....... thought that was fun fun

My first day was yesterday........ xd

Ping-pong ish teh awesome.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 02, 2004 3:52 pm


HOLY CRAP. eek I HAVE THE ONE RING.

(You know, like the real one...)

AND I'M WEARING IT, AND...GAH! This is just...wow. Wow. WOW. AH! I'm so happy it's scary...

ninja My preciousssss... ninja

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 02, 2004 4:29 pm


Estelyn
HOLY CRAP. eek I HAVE THE ONE RING.

(You know, like the real one...)

AND I'M WEARING IT, AND...GAH! This is just...wow. Wow. WOW. AH! I'm so happy it's scary...

ninja My preciousssss... ninja


ninja (~slaps~ Stop it, you're going to scare the kids. <_< >_>...
<--Ish teh sneeky)
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