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 Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 7:38 pm
iDigress LizzyJayne Hey Psy can I be back on crew? I was doing good until I was demoted. Same here. ...but of course, I'm a bit too opinionated and not sensitive enough, I guess... xd
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Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 9:07 pm
We only need crew for certain things, right?
Even people who do the newsletter don't have to be on crew.
What do we really, truly, need crew for?
I just don't see what the big deal about being crew is.
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Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 9:25 pm
smile_its_me @ Martyr - Voting doesn't have to be fail. It allows members to make a choice and be heard. The guild is 'whining about what they don't like' because editing posts apparently made most of the guild upset and at the end of their ropes. Especially since it wasn't handled before. The hell does that have to do with voting? See, now yoru just trying to cause drama. And no, there are some things people should be able to here and voting is not one of said things. It is abuse, horridly, plus if people dont like it they can grow up, not voting for something on the net is NOT A BIG DEAL neutral
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Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 9:26 pm
Of course he doesn't believe in voting. He's a damn commie.
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Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 9:27 pm
Rathmanian Of course he doesn't believe in voting. He's a damn commie. Ehhh, thats not really it, it's just this guild isn't capable of having nice things, or it will be abused soon after its given to them.
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Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 9:29 pm
I enjoy nice things.
EDIT: Voting would turn into a popularity contest though.
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Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 9:30 pm
Yes it would, Rath.
And people saying 'WELL SO AND SO SHOULD GET THIS POSITION BECAUSE THEY'VE BEEN HERE FOREVER.' Not really paying attention to personality and capability, just the length of time they've been around.
or 'we shouldn't have so and so on here because they're *~*~BIASED~*~*'.
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Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 9:36 pm
Smartest-Little-Peanut We only need crew for certain things, right? Even people who do the newsletter don't have to be on crew. What do we really, truly, need crew for? I just don't see what the big deal about being crew is.
The fact that the only reason I wasn't recrew'd because a couple people said, "if we put Baron back on crew, iDi would be jealous/bitter, and vice versa, and we don't want both of them on crew" is an extremely senseless reason.
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Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 9:37 pm
Rathmanian
Voting would turn into a popularity contest though.
Thats the problem right there, people would be picking friends, not good leaders
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Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 9:46 pm
Baron Von Gneo Smartest-Little-Peanut We only need crew for certain things, right? Even people who do the newsletter don't have to be on crew. What do we really, truly, need crew for? I just don't see what the big deal about being crew is.
The fact that the only reason I wasn't recrew'd because a couple people said, "if we put Baron back on crew, iDi would be jealous/bitter, and vice versa, and we don't want both of them on crew" is an extremely senseless reason.But you can do that no matter what your member status is. It's what I do in situations (in and out of the guild) daily.
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Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 10:01 pm
votes should be disqualified for the "well lul i just like so and so more" there could be an added "WHY should they get that job?" section to votes.
like i've said before, resumes and stuff.
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Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 10:06 pm
that could work.
but it could always backfire.
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Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 10:16 pm
Smartest-Little-Peanut Baron Von Gneo Smartest-Little-Peanut We only need crew for certain things, right? Even people who do the newsletter don't have to be on crew. What do we really, truly, need crew for? I just don't see what the big deal about being crew is.
The fact that the only reason I wasn't recrew'd because a couple people said, "if we put Baron back on crew, iDi would be jealous/bitter, and vice versa, and we don't want both of them on crew" is an extremely senseless reason.But you can do that no matter what your member status is. It's what I do in situations (in and out of the guild) daily.
That wasn't the point of what I said.
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Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 10:20 pm
Smartest-Little-Peanut that could work. but it could always backfire. then demand a recount. not every one would be up for vote, there would be steps involved. well before it all starts, a list should be made of what jobs need to be done, on a regular basis, by crew, to determine how much crew is needed. First, open self and public nominations. Self nominees know what they are capable of. Other people feel useless and really aren't confident and hopefully some one else recognizes their use and nominates them. A public list should be issued so that lets say "oh, i'm on it and i don't want to be crew." then i can withdraw myself. Second, proof that those up aren't dicking around and can actually carry out assigned duties, be it through resumes interviews or examples of what they do. And a look at the track record of the person, are they a flake, are they dependable, a big screening process. Third, with the lame asses weeded out by step 2, look at who is left, and what jobs need filling. If a job has several people to fit the bill(jobs with only one candidate are a auto win), open public vote with specifications. like...you have to give ligit reasons for your vote, and it has to be one of the approved people up for the run off.
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Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 11:04 pm
Martyr_of_Death smile_its_me @ Martyr - Voting doesn't have to be fail. It allows members to make a choice and be heard. The guild is 'whining about what they don't like' because editing posts apparently made most of the guild upset and at the end of their ropes. Especially since it wasn't handled before. The hell does that have to do with voting? See, now yoru just trying to cause drama. And no, there are some things people should be able to here and voting is not one of said things. It is abuse, horridly, plus if people dont like it they can grow up, not voting for something on the net is NOT A BIG DEAL neutral 
Editing posts had to do with you saying people were whining about what they don't like. Especially since you were the one who edited posts the 2nd time it happened. (ABUSE OF CREW POWER- the very reason most people are upset about who is and is not crew).
The rest of the comment was also directed at you, saying voting does not have to be fail. The sentences were seperated for a reason.
@ Hasina & Peanut - I suggested that if there were to be a nomination or something of the sort reguarding crew, it should include what the nominee has to offer as crew.(back a page or so)
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