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Science in the Bible?

ankiannabar
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Posted: Sat Dec 05, 2009 7:30 pm

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spaceHolly Says,
"So yeah, in a different discussion, the topic arose that the Bible could not have science in it.

I'm not asking you to agree with all teachings of the Bible, I just wanted to give my rebuttal by providing a few verses. Feel free to comment, or not. But please keep the forum rules in mind when doing so. The science in the Bible predates when man discovered these facts, btw.

1. The earth is round. (science actually taught that it was flat)
2. The earth is suspended in space without support.
3. The stars are countless. (People of old thought that the stars could be counted -- there were about 1200 visible stars, Ptolemy (AD 150) dogmatically stated that the number of stars was exactly 1056.)
4. The hydrologic cycle.
5. Many insights into health, hygiene, and diet.
6. The first and second Laws of Thermodynamics. (These state that the amount of mass-energy in the universe is constant.The amount of energy in the universe available for work is running down, or the entropy is increasing to a maximum. (Entropy is a measure of disorder, or of the decrease in usable energy.))
7. Each star is unique. All stars look alike to the naked eye.* Even when seen through a telescope, they seem to be just points of light. However, analysis of their light spectra reveals that each is unique and different from all others.[1] (*Note: People can perceive some slight difference in color and apparent brightness when looking at stars with the naked eye, but we would not expect a person living in the first century A.D. to claim they differ from one another.)
8. The importance of blood. The blood carries water and nourishment to every cell, maintains the body’s temperature, and removes the waste material of the body’s cells. The blood also carries oxygen from the lungs throughout the body. In 1616, William Harvey discovered that blood circulation is the key factor in physical life—confirming what the Bible revealed 3,000 years earlier.
9. We have cave paintings and other evidence that people inhabited caves. The Bible also describes cave men. Note that these were not ape-men, but descendants of those who scattered from Babel. They were driven from the community by those tribes who competed successfully for the more desirable regions of the earth. Then for some reason they deteriorated mentally, physically, and spiritually. (Go into a bad part of your town and you will see this concept in action today.)

This website was also used in the making of this thread. For more interesting scientific-Biblical facts, go there!"
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Posted: Sat Dec 05, 2009 7:45 pm

I'll not even touch upon the inconsistencies and lapses in logic, I'll just stick to science.

Genesis 1:1

In the beginning god created heaven and earth.

God also creates light before any light creating objects, and created night and day before earth had started it's rotation around the sun, (Seeing as there was no sun) birds are created before reptiles, flowering plants before animals. (The same plants who were also created before the sun.)

genesis 1:30

And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for meat: and it was so.

Genesis 5:2

And all the days that Adam lived were nine hundred and thirty years: and he died.

Genesis 5:8

And all the days of Seth were nine hundred and twelve years: and he died.

Genesis 5:11

And all the days of Enos were nine hundred and five years: and he died.

And there's like four more of these.

30:37-39

And Jacob took him rods of green poplar, and of the hazel and chesnut tree; and pilled white strakes in them, and made the white appear which was in the rods.
And he set the rods which he had pilled before the flocks in the gutters in the watering troughs when the flocks came to drink, that they should conceive when they came to drink.
And the flocks conceived before the rods, and brought forth cattle ringstraked, speckled, and spotted.

(I skipped exodus, the main problem there was a stupidly long travel time)

Levicticus 11:5-6

And the coney, because he cheweth the cud, but divideth not the hoof; he is unclean unto you.
And the hare, because he cheweth the cud , but divideth not the hoof; he is unclean unto you.

Levicticus 11:20-23

All fowls that creep, going upon all four, shall be an abomination unto you.
Yet these may ye eat of every flying creeping thing that goeth upon all four, which have legs above their feet.
Yet these may ye eat of every flying creeping thing that goeth upon all four, which have legs above their feet, to leap withal upon the earth;
Even these of them ye may eat; the locust after his kind, and the bald locust after his kind, and the beetle after his kind, and the grasshopper after his kind.
But all other flying creeping things, which have four feet, shall be an abomination unto you.

Also Bat = Birds.

Levicticus 14:1-20

And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying,
This shall be the law of the leper in the day of his cleansing: He shall be brought unto the priest:
And the priest shall go forth out of the camp; and the priest shall look, and, behold, if the plague of leprosy be healed in the leper;
Then shall the priest command to take for him that is to be cleansed two birds alive and clean, and cedar wood, and scarlet, and hyssop:
And the priest shall command that one of the birds be killed in an earthen vessel over running water:
As for the living bird, he shall take it , and the cedar wood, and the scarlet, and the hyssop, and shall dip them and the living bird in the blood of the bird that was killed over the running water:
And he shall sprinkle upon him that is to be cleansed from the leprosy seven times, and shall pronounce him clean, and shall let the living bird loose into the open field.
And he that is to be cleansed shall wash his clothes, and shave off all his hair, and wash himself in water, that he may be clean: and after that he shall come into the camp, and shall tarry abroad out of his tent seven days.
But it shall be on the seventh day, that he shall shave all his hair off his head and his beard and his eyebrows, even all his hair he shall shave off: and he shall wash his clothes, also he shall wash his flesh in water, and he shall be clean.
And on the eighth day he shall take two he lambs without blemish, and one ewe lamb of the first year without blemish, and three tenth deals of fine flour for a meat offering, mingled with oil, and one log of oil. "
And the priest that maketh him clean shall present the man that is to be made clean, and those things, before the LORD, at the door of the tabernacle of the congregation:
And the priest shall take one he lamb, and offer him for a trespass offering , and the log of oil, and wave them for a wave offering before the LORD:
And he shall slay the lamb in the place where he shall kill the sin offering and the burnt offering, in the holy place: for as the sin offering is the priest's, so is the trespass offering: it is most holy. (14:13) "And he shall slay the lamb ... in the holy place: ... it is most holy."
And the priest shall take some of the blood of the trespass offering, and the priest shall put it upon the tip of the right ear of him that is to be cleansed, and upon the thumb of his right hand, and upon the great toe of his right foot:
And the priest shall take some of the log of oil, and pour it into the palm of his own left hand:
And the priest shall dip his right finger in the oil that is in his left hand, and shall sprinkle of the oil with his finger seven times before the LORD:
And of the rest of the oil that is in his hand shall the priest put upon the tip of the right ear of him that is to be cleansed, and upon the thumb of his right hand, and upon the great toe of his right foot, upon the blood of the trespass offering:
And the remnant of the oil that is in the priest's hand he shall pour upon the head of him that is to be cleansed: and the priest shall make an atonement for him before the LORD.
And the priest shall offer the sin offering, and make an atonement for him that is to be cleansed from his uncleanness; and afterward he shall kill the burnt offering
And the priest shall offer the burnt offering and the meat offering upon the altar: and the priest shall make an atonement for him, and he shall be clean.

This one is included mostly for hilarity.

I could continue, but it's strictly unnecessary.

As for your examples:
1: Oh really?, and if I might nitpick this doesn't say that the earth is a sphere, nor does it say that the earth is non-flat.
2: Job 9:6 And Samuel 2:8
3: So yea, they don't have an exact number on the stars, big whoop. Ptolemy was also not exactly a scientist, nor was anything he ever said widely accepted as truth.
4: Okay.
5: Fine, it has good advice. But I'd like to refer to you to the different cures in the bibles, such as the leprosy cure in this post.
6: That is not the first and second law of thermodynamics... and how you reached that conclusion boggles the mind.
7: It says "and star differs from star in splendor.", basically "Some stars are brighter/better looking than others", which I can easily percieve with my naked eye.
My 3 years old cousin can point out Polaris.
8: ... wut?
That's... taken heavily out of context and warped to serve a completely different need than what was originally intended.
It does not even refer to blood as important for life.
9: See, I'm going to be quite frank with you here.
There is a difference between a man living in a cave and homo erectus.
Furthermore, the idea that we as a race lived primarily in caves is ludicrous.

NONE of that predates their "scientific" discovery by people such as the Greeks and Egyptians anyway so it wouldn't even matter if it was true.

I also have a question for you:
If I make a billion guesses and get say... 50 right, am I divinely inspired?