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Earlier today I was banned from the Gaia Nazi Guild for not sharing the same racist views of many of the more prominent members. After proclaiming my disapproval of the party's racist values, I was promptly (within seconds) removed from the guild.
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Gottkrieger
People, the last thing we want within our guild and our party is division. Arguing among ourselves about who is right and who is wrong shall get us nowhere. Not to sound self-righteous myself, but we must cast aside these opinions of each other and focus on what we wish to do as a whole - to educate and make progress. Herr Blitzkrieger, whilst you do raise some interesting points it is Reinhard's choice and right to believe what he wishes to believe in. We have no right of our own to say his belief is wrong. While some of us may argue that racism has no place in our party I believe that it should not matter. Some of us are racist, some of us aren't; I don't see why we need to get at each other because we believe and think slightly differently. At the end of the day, I see both yourself and Reinhard (along with each and every one of us National Socialists) as comrades in arms, loyal followers and believers in the Nazi doctrine.

In addition, the past Nazi government did contain racists but that didn't mean that the non-racists among them went and expelled them from the party. They stayed together, respected each other beliefs/opinions and got on with the progress they intended to make - and as a modern day National Socialist party, we should do the same. I respect the opinions and beliefs of all. So to summarise, we must be united and not divided!

These racist beliefs poison the political ideology. I agree with Blitz whole heartedly on this issue. Racists like Reinhard do not assist us, they drag us down. The reason that National Socialism is not embraced by society as it rightfully should be is because racist beliefs alienate a large margin of America's population.

Racial purity is a dream that can no long be achieved; we're too much of a melting pot. "Purebreeds" are a dying breed. As a party, we need to get past the idea of segregation and racism and evolve as a whole.

Back in the 40s, those not of German decent were the minority. In America today, this is quite the opposite. We are the minority, both racially and politically. To this idea, we must adapt.

White Nationalist and racist views are what keep Fascists like myself from speaking up in the guild. These mentalities, likewise, discourage others from joining the movement. We shouldn't toss our problems in the backseat and take them along for the ride, but rather stamp them out like the filth that they are.

I only hope to provide this as further proof of the differences between Fascism and National Socialism. National Socialism is a movement that encourages intolerance, hatred, and prejudice. The fundamentals of the ideology are those of segregation and racism. No matter how they wish to disguise it; these ideas are foundation to their beliefs.

Please refer to my other thread for a more lengthy response to the differences between Fascism and Nazism as well as my plea that non-racist Fascists, such as myself, no longer be likened to the political views of a sick ideology like National Socialism.

Pure Fascism diluted by Racial Purification:
http://www.gaiaonline.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5797129

It is also my goal to join like-minded individuals (Fascists or those interested in Fascism) in a movement of our own to dispel fallacious parallels and prove to others that we are not a group to be hated, but rather respect just as any other political party would be.
Gottkrieger
In addition, the past Nazi government did contain racists but that didn't mean that the non-racists among them went and expelled them from the party.

As a final note, I'd like to point out the hypocrisy in this quote. The moment that I expressed my opposition to a racist National Socialist party, I was promptly removed from the guild.

Receiving a ban for declaring my opposition to racist values only further proves that the guild not only condones, but rather encourages, racism. Promoting this kind of behaviour is wrong. This is a blatant violation of the Gaia TOS and the guild should be held accountable.
So you get banned for being an irritating little s**t and you bring this to the public forum. How mature. s**t like this is why you were banned. Period.
Reinhard Heydrich
So you get banned for being an irritating little s**t and you bring this to the public forum. How mature. s**t like this is why you were banned. Period.

This thread was created to inspire mature political discussion about the differences between Fascism and National Socialism, as well as provide open forum for those who agree or disagree with National Socialism's racist values to express their views.

Please, refrain from flaming.

Omnipresent Warlord

I guess we will never know because the guild is private.
ReinHard..... Racism does Pollute National Socialism. The only hope for any idealology to survive is that it must be largely respected by the Masses, and the Masses don't Respect Racism.

As I am led to Understand(I'm not a Practioner of National Socialism, so I may be wrong) Racism is not a part of the Core Values of National Socialism. Until you can Rid Racism from your Party, You will never be more than a Psychotic Fringe.
Assuming you've posted the full context here, I'd say they'dve done well to take your advice instead of banning you. Granted, I can't see in the guild, so you could be distorting the conversation. I can't say.

But if there's actually racist content going on in there, PM a mod and have them investigate it. Any users on Gaia who engage in the blatant promotion of racism will be banned.
Reinhard Heydrich
So you get banned for being an irritating little s**t and you bring this to the public forum. How mature. s**t like this is why you were banned. Period.


The swastika armband in your sig is backwards.
As a mod and team member of the Gaia Nazi Guild I must say that your deleltion from the group was sound. Reinhard, I would have made the same decision had I been in your shoes. As for you Brad, please be more mature in taking your loss for what it is...
Hyosho
Reinhard Heydrich
So you get banned for being an irritating little s**t and you bring this to the public forum. How mature. s**t like this is why you were banned. Period.


The swastika armband in your sig is backwards.


Now it's Just a Buddhist Holy Symbol
Actually in this case a non-National Socialist made the picture as a gift for him...

Jeering Regular

Well, not to be obtuse, but wasn't Nazism essentially a racist doctrine? The whole Mein Kampf, kill a bunch of Jews, engage in eugenicism thing, et cetera. Racism doesn't pollute Nazism so much as define it. Otherwise, it would just be another heavily nationalistic, totalitarian, military dictatorship.
Angsty Shem
Assuming you've posted the full context here, I'd say they'dve done well to take your advice instead of banning you. Granted, I can't see in the guild, so you could be distorting the conversation. I can't say.

But if there's actually racist content going on in there, PM a mod and have them investigate it. Any users on Gaia who engage in the blatant promotion of racism will be banned.

what you mean you don't have a mule to read the nazi guild? It's fun you should try it out. I couldn't find brad's post I'm guessing it was deleted since I read a thread that had the gottkrieger post in it, but I didn't see brad's. Anyways from what I read I wouldn't have banned him. He wasn't being a troll or incredibly inflammitory, hell he was agreeing with the person who made the thread.
Damn...... Does Everyone But me Have Mules In all the Guilds? I'm Just myself..... and I'm a bit bothered by the lengths people will go to Spy on People they Despise.
Yes, it's sad that some people have to stoop so low as to be nothing more than a rat pretending to be someone else.

Omnipresent Warlord

I do not have any mules either for that very same reason. If I want in a guild then I will ask.

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