Kiretsu
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- Posted: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 12:44:39 +0000
I think its time we had another one of these.
If you are unaware, the C&T State of the union is for all uses who come by(IE, not just regs) this forum to post their opinions on how the forum is doing, what we should do to improve it, and what is going on that is detrimental to the forum.
I have a few points I would like to raise, in no particular order, except for the first one, which involves the poll, plus is traditionally why this type of thread is made.
1. Do we Need a new mod or two?
Well, do we?
My opinion on this is that while Sisk, and Xeon are doing a dandy job in and out of C&T, Twist is on a slight hiatus that he needs due to life issues. But in his absence, I feel we do need one more person to help share in the workload.
I also think we should have at least one person on a night shift of sorts, to take care of matters that arise durring the night, because idiocy knows no time. I would have made this a Poll option, but I felt it would spread it out too much.
Oh, this is not the place to campaign for or recomend who you think would be a great mod and why, unless Sisk or Xeon or Twist say differently on the later.
2. "What I learned"
There was a slight misconception that it was a "Regulars Only" thread. As the topics creator, this is untrue. Yes, the regs gather there, but if a new person comes along, that is fine. They need not be a reg to post, as long as they are being decent. If they are not, being decent, contact one of our mods if possible. It isnt that hard... which brings me to my third topic.
3. "Please PM a Mod to move this"
This, in the history of Gaia has never worked, unless it was a misplaced post by a reg, which is rare. If the thread is out of place, just PM a mod yourself to move it. Provide a link to the mod, and a breif explanation on why it needs to be move. Rule breakage, wrong forum, done to death, spam, whatever. We usually end up having to Pm a mod to move it anyway, so just take the extra 45 seconds and do it if you see it, please.
The same kinda goes for Sticky violations/repeats/etc. Yes, tell them that its in violation, and how it is so, but again, PM a mod yourself to get it moved.
And one more thing on this, multiple posts of different people all telling the poster the same thing are grossley not needed. If it gets posted at the same time or close to it, that happens, but we dont need all to say they are wrong, and why. This doesnt happen often, usually its just posts withing seconds/minutes of each other, but sometimes not. Just keep it mind, ok? This goes for both violations and general question threads, really, unless in the question, you are elaborating on what you or someone else said for clarification.
4. Flames
I am guilty of it. Alot of people here are. I do personally feel we need to tone it down a little. It isnt as bad as it used to be, but still I feel it is on the rise again. I understand we all have our off days, but try to keep a simmer on. As it says in the Stickies, Debate, not convert.
Oh, and for a few of you new people who I hope to see this: Sarcasm/jest does not transfer to plain text well. If there is a question if your post is a joke or not, you probobly shouldn't post it, or at the very least make it painfully obvious that it is a joke by use of "j/k" or an emoticon or three that can easily express that yes, it is a joke.
5. C&T PD
Keep it or kill it?
Im my personal opinion it should stay as a resoursce, or even a failsafe. When it was created, we literally had no local moderation, and it was desperatly need. Now, with 2 dedicateds and Twistex half here, it is kinda on the back burner, and just idle. I personally think it needs to be kept for the raininy day that will happen with the exponential gaia growth.
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New as of 1/22/05
Please comment/add/change/revise these to make them better for the final version
Now then, this is widley open for discussion by everyone who wants to discuss it. I mean everone, as long as they are not atempting Jackassery. My thoughts and opinions are all over, even though it does sound like I am being a slight dictator at times.
If you have another matter that I missed, and you feel it merrits discussion, post it, and most likeley it will end up in the first post.
If you are unaware, the C&T State of the union is for all uses who come by(IE, not just regs) this forum to post their opinions on how the forum is doing, what we should do to improve it, and what is going on that is detrimental to the forum.
I have a few points I would like to raise, in no particular order, except for the first one, which involves the poll, plus is traditionally why this type of thread is made.
1. Do we Need a new mod or two?
Well, do we?
My opinion on this is that while Sisk, and Xeon are doing a dandy job in and out of C&T, Twist is on a slight hiatus that he needs due to life issues. But in his absence, I feel we do need one more person to help share in the workload.
I also think we should have at least one person on a night shift of sorts, to take care of matters that arise durring the night, because idiocy knows no time. I would have made this a Poll option, but I felt it would spread it out too much.
Oh, this is not the place to campaign for or recomend who you think would be a great mod and why, unless Sisk or Xeon or Twist say differently on the later.
2. "What I learned"
There was a slight misconception that it was a "Regulars Only" thread. As the topics creator, this is untrue. Yes, the regs gather there, but if a new person comes along, that is fine. They need not be a reg to post, as long as they are being decent. If they are not, being decent, contact one of our mods if possible. It isnt that hard... which brings me to my third topic.
3. "Please PM a Mod to move this"
This, in the history of Gaia has never worked, unless it was a misplaced post by a reg, which is rare. If the thread is out of place, just PM a mod yourself to move it. Provide a link to the mod, and a breif explanation on why it needs to be move. Rule breakage, wrong forum, done to death, spam, whatever. We usually end up having to Pm a mod to move it anyway, so just take the extra 45 seconds and do it if you see it, please.
The same kinda goes for Sticky violations/repeats/etc. Yes, tell them that its in violation, and how it is so, but again, PM a mod yourself to get it moved.
And one more thing on this, multiple posts of different people all telling the poster the same thing are grossley not needed. If it gets posted at the same time or close to it, that happens, but we dont need all to say they are wrong, and why. This doesnt happen often, usually its just posts withing seconds/minutes of each other, but sometimes not. Just keep it mind, ok? This goes for both violations and general question threads, really, unless in the question, you are elaborating on what you or someone else said for clarification.
4. Flames
I am guilty of it. Alot of people here are. I do personally feel we need to tone it down a little. It isnt as bad as it used to be, but still I feel it is on the rise again. I understand we all have our off days, but try to keep a simmer on. As it says in the Stickies, Debate, not convert.
Oh, and for a few of you new people who I hope to see this: Sarcasm/jest does not transfer to plain text well. If there is a question if your post is a joke or not, you probobly shouldn't post it, or at the very least make it painfully obvious that it is a joke by use of "j/k" or an emoticon or three that can easily express that yes, it is a joke.
5. C&T PD
Keep it or kill it?
Im my personal opinion it should stay as a resoursce, or even a failsafe. When it was created, we literally had no local moderation, and it was desperatly need. Now, with 2 dedicateds and Twistex half here, it is kinda on the back burner, and just idle. I personally think it needs to be kept for the raininy day that will happen with the exponential gaia growth.
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New as of 1/22/05
DopplerZero
Working Version-
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C&T is like most other question forums in Gaia. If you've visited Q&F, you have a general idea how it works. Except it's not with Gaia, and with computers. And every other thing with a speck of technology in it. Thusly, some new rules pop up from the woodwork.
1) If you don't know the answer to the problem, or at least some useful tidbit of info that could be helpful, Don't Post Saying You Don't Know. These are real people that need real help, not annoyances and the eventual arguments that will come when someone warns of the spam. And when someone warns, try at best to add in some information useful to the thread as well. Ten posts telling one person he's offtopic are just as offtopic as as the first. The best solution: Tell a mod or their minions and have them take care of the offending post with their swift as wind ninja skills.
2) NO CONVERTING. By all that is holy, abide by this rule. If someone has a problem with IE, don't tell them "Get Firefox. IE sucks." This is about as helpful as saying you don't know. Which is what it really is.
3) Flamethrowers holstered. If someone says something stupid, don't whail on them for it. Civilized is the name of the game. If the person just rants off stupid things, warn them first, either in the thread or by PM, and then, if they persist, report them to one of the mods or their minions for...handling.
4) We're not grammar nazis. Really. We're not. But netspeak and 1337 don't pass well with us. We like to read plain old English. Well. Modern English. Forsooth through doth this yonder window halt? Spyware, I doth decree, shalt be the pain of an eternity.
5) D2D. Done to Death. There's a list. If a thread is D2D, don't flame it. Just point them to the list, and report it to one of C&T's trusted purple-clad warriors against the forces of spam.
6) A good C&Ter always has links and facts when arguing something. "Macs suck!" Isn't a valid argument. "Macs suck because none of the new games come out on them!" Is valid. Back up with facts, not excessive !!!111!!!'s or pineapples.
7) Obey the Stickies. The Stickies are the stone tablets from the gods. No bumping. Use the GMail and site rating stickies. Be one with the zen of C&T. In being zen, it is also paramount to acknowledge the zen of the violet knights of C&T. To achieve this zen, it is oft-times necessary to give them sacrifices of the sacred mangos. (That and trout, but for some reason the trout seem to want to attach onto people's heads.)
cool Respect others. The dividing line between those who are respected and those who arn't. If you treat others like they know something, you'll get the same. Treating others like they are worthless without proof of such is akin to elitism. Which we're not. Really. We're not elitists.
9) An effective C&Ter learns something new everyday. They will research up some things sometimes to help, learning new things in the process that will help down the road. And not just from Google, too.
10) Gaia is for fun. Don't take things too personally. The entire point is to enjoy yourself. If the swarming forces of the inexperienced swarm, it be best for a warrior to go, gather help from amongst the populous, and return with the might of knowledge as his sword, and Google as his shield.
-----------------------
C&T is like most other question forums in Gaia. If you've visited Q&F, you have a general idea how it works. Except it's not with Gaia, and with computers. And every other thing with a speck of technology in it. Thusly, some new rules pop up from the woodwork.
1) If you don't know the answer to the problem, or at least some useful tidbit of info that could be helpful, Don't Post Saying You Don't Know. These are real people that need real help, not annoyances and the eventual arguments that will come when someone warns of the spam. And when someone warns, try at best to add in some information useful to the thread as well. Ten posts telling one person he's offtopic are just as offtopic as as the first. The best solution: Tell a mod or their minions and have them take care of the offending post with their swift as wind ninja skills.
2) NO CONVERTING. By all that is holy, abide by this rule. If someone has a problem with IE, don't tell them "Get Firefox. IE sucks." This is about as helpful as saying you don't know. Which is what it really is.
3) Flamethrowers holstered. If someone says something stupid, don't whail on them for it. Civilized is the name of the game. If the person just rants off stupid things, warn them first, either in the thread or by PM, and then, if they persist, report them to one of the mods or their minions for...handling.
4) We're not grammar nazis. Really. We're not. But netspeak and 1337 don't pass well with us. We like to read plain old English. Well. Modern English. Forsooth through doth this yonder window halt? Spyware, I doth decree, shalt be the pain of an eternity.
5) D2D. Done to Death. There's a list. If a thread is D2D, don't flame it. Just point them to the list, and report it to one of C&T's trusted purple-clad warriors against the forces of spam.
6) A good C&Ter always has links and facts when arguing something. "Macs suck!" Isn't a valid argument. "Macs suck because none of the new games come out on them!" Is valid. Back up with facts, not excessive !!!111!!!'s or pineapples.
7) Obey the Stickies. The Stickies are the stone tablets from the gods. No bumping. Use the GMail and site rating stickies. Be one with the zen of C&T. In being zen, it is also paramount to acknowledge the zen of the violet knights of C&T. To achieve this zen, it is oft-times necessary to give them sacrifices of the sacred mangos. (That and trout, but for some reason the trout seem to want to attach onto people's heads.)
cool Respect others. The dividing line between those who are respected and those who arn't. If you treat others like they know something, you'll get the same. Treating others like they are worthless without proof of such is akin to elitism. Which we're not. Really. We're not elitists.
9) An effective C&Ter learns something new everyday. They will research up some things sometimes to help, learning new things in the process that will help down the road. And not just from Google, too.
10) Gaia is for fun. Don't take things too personally. The entire point is to enjoy yourself. If the swarming forces of the inexperienced swarm, it be best for a warrior to go, gather help from amongst the populous, and return with the might of knowledge as his sword, and Google as his shield.
Please comment/add/change/revise these to make them better for the final version
Now then, this is widley open for discussion by everyone who wants to discuss it. I mean everone, as long as they are not atempting Jackassery. My thoughts and opinions are all over, even though it does sound like I am being a slight dictator at times.
If you have another matter that I missed, and you feel it merrits discussion, post it, and most likeley it will end up in the first post.
