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A few years ago, one of my friends wrote this essay on what his faith meant to him:

Drac
What is faith?

In Mere Christianity, C. S. Lewis outlined his view of faith:

"Faith [...] is the art of holding onto things your reason has once accepted, in spite of your changing moods. For moods will change, whatever view your reason takes. I know that by experience. Now that I am a Christian, I do have moods in which the whole thing looks very improbable: but when I was an atheist, I had moods in which Christianity looked terribly probable. This rebellion of your moods against your real self is going to come anyway. That is why Faith is such a necessary virtue: unless you teach your moods 'where they get off,' you can never be either a sound Christian or even a sound atheist, but just a creature dithering to and fro, with its beliefs really dependent on the weather and the state of its digestion."


This is a valid, intelligent, and logical approach, and one that I have admired for several years; but I would have to admit that it is not an entirely Biblical one.

The most-quoted Biblical treatise on Christian faith, that in Hebrews 11, is not so much an definition of faith as an exposition on its effects. Hebrews 11:1-2 says, "Now faith is being sure of what we hope for and certain of what we do not see. This is what the ancients were commended for."

But in answer to this, the modern quester will often ask, "Why? How were they sure?" This question- a question as to the nature and definition of faith, rather than its importance and its effects- is not answered directly.

If I were to attempt a rational, consistent approach to considering the Biblical concept of faith, I would begin by noting that Biblical faith and logical skepticism are actually linked as follows:

Faith is the refusal to allow baser qualities to interfere with higher loyalties and ethical positions.

Faith is more akin to loyalty and committed devotion than it is to the usually-quoted blind suspension of disbelief. One passage that I came across in my reading that rings true to me:

Faith, according to Paul, is the act whereby a man identifies himself with Christ [...] Faith is thus the indispensable, and at the same time the all-sufficient, condition of salvation. Viewed in this way, it is an act of the profoundest spiritual meaning.

It is not mere assent, intellectual or moral, it is not mere confidence in Christ's words or in his promises, it is not a mere belief that he is what he claims to be, but it is the reception of Christ himself into the soul. [...] strictly speaking, it is not an act at all, but simply the attitude of receptivity toward Christ.


Skepticism is the refusal to allow baser qualities to interfere with higher mental functions and intellectual positions and methods.

Skepticism- and I speak here in a careful general sense, and not in an attempt to simultaneously define several related schools of philosophy- is at essence also a kind of loyalty or devotion- a loyalty or devotion to the process of principled intellectual inquiry. The representation of skepticism as being equivalent to incredulity or potentially temporary disbelief is sufficient for superficial conversation, but does not stand up to logical or philosophical scrutiny, and is inappropriate within a discussion of philosophy or theology. (1,2)


As such, faith is not intrinsically in conflict with rationality at all; such conflict is utterly dependent on the "faithful" making the questionable choice to uphold anti-intellectuality as a supposed virtue. In a sense, Skepticism urges faith in logical processes, and Faith urges a skeptical approach to fear and doubt.


From this standpoint, Lewis's version of faith is simply refusing to allow low mood and poor digestion to interfere with the logical and supra-logical position one has taken in favour of Christianity; it approaches the boundary between pure biblical faith and skepticism- which is only to be expected, since his defense of Christianity is based on ethical as well as intellectual arguments.


It is appropriate here, I think, to point out the counterfeiters: "faith" based on ignorance is sham (as many dogmatic parents learn when their children reach maturity and independence); and "skepticism" based on fear of taking a position is worse than worthless- it is merely cowardly doubt. And, perhaps most commonly, what initially appears to be faith in some cases or logical skepticism in others, often turns out to be common human inertia.


This is, to me, one of the finest descriptions of what it means to be a Christian Intellectual that I have ever read.
Many believe that in order to have faith, one must lost all skepticism. I hope that this essay helps to show that that is not necessarily true.
I would have to agree.
I don't think one can strengthen their faith without some skepticism. It's the questions that arise during such though processes that allow one to grow stronger, more in touch if you will, with their faith.
To deny questions, or to assume that it is all laid out bare, is quite a folly.
I'm a skeptic. I'm not as vocal about it as many here, but as one well versed in life's disapointments, i'm not inclined to accept things without reason, though i'm no so picky as some when it comes to reasons.

I agree with what Lewis says. Faith should be informed not blind, and skepticism should not mean that you must automatically assume everything invalid until statistically substantiated.
As the rational mind is itself a gift of God for use in the comprehension not only of the universe, but also the full understanding of His revelation, I would have to concur with Lewis's attitude, and am probably living evidence in the matter of strong faith and rampant skepticism.
Ananel
As the rational mind is itself a gift of God for use in the comprehension not only of the universe, but also the full understanding of His revelation, I would have to concur with Lewis's attitude, and am probably living evidence in the matter of strong faith and rampant skepticism.

I agree. I've often said that there is no such thing as 'forbidden knowledge' for a Christian.
The only thing I believe to be forbidden to Christians is certain methodologies for obtaining that information - but that's a thread for another day.
Faith means belief without reason. Skepticsm is to doubt everything. The two are inherently incompatible.

Your friend may well explain what he means when he uses those words, but he's using different definitions to everyone else. He's just wrong.

EDIT: What he means by faith would more accurately be described as willpower, and what he means by skepticsm would more accurately be described as rationality. Note that rationality itself isn't purely rational, but implies a person who is rational doesn't act irrationally, i.e. act on their impulses.
gigacannon
Faith means belief without reason. Skepticsm is to doubt everything. The two are inherently incompatible.

Your friend may well explain what he means when he uses those words, but he's using different definitions to everyone else. He's just wrong.

EDIT: What he means by faith would more accurately be described as willpower, and what he means by skepticsm would more accurately be described as rationality. Note that rationality itself isn't purely rational, but implies a person who is rational doesn't act irrationally, i.e. act on their impulses.


They are compatible. They both just need to be properly selective. Simply because you have faith on one thing doesn't mean you can't be skeptical about another.

In fact, just because you have faith in an unproven ONE thing doesn't mean you can't be skeptical about EVERYTHING else.
At first the two might seem harmonious, but there is a definite point where you will pick a path, either you trust religion and have faith, or you dont and hope for understanding with your mortal senses.

The point is, Reason or Revelation? After walking three miles with your eyes wide open, will you trust to walk the last mile with your eyes closed? At one point you must blink, will you stop walking then?
gigacannon
Faith means belief without reason.


belief without reason is sheer stupidity.

Faith is belief without solid certainty. Most peaple have reasons tio believe what they believe.
Faith without skepticism leads to an excess of naivete- I'm sure that we can all name plenty of examples where we have encountered faithful who never question anything.

They don't read their sacred texts, because they believe what their pastor/priests/an author has told them, which they 'believe' to be true without informing themselves for themselves.

They don't question which beliefs they hold hold true to the canon of their religion.

They don't question how those beliefs are applied.

And so on and so forth. One then achieves such informed results as, 'Jesus hates fags,' 'I don't need to read the bible, my father's a pastor,' 'Wicca is about nature', 'I meditate to receive enlightenment', 'If I position my furniture this way, I will be more spiritual'.

Faith and knowledge produce informed faith. Informed faith is, imo, the only way to properly worship in the ways that one's deities have set down before them. If it were not, why are there so many texts out there?Skepticism allows one to refuse to be led astray whilst testing and retesting the foundatons of one's own beliefs to make them stronger. Doubt allows one to revisit, in an informed manner, precisely what it is about a given belief that makes one believe. If that belief is then informed, and genuine, it will hold up. That, in turn, should reaffirm one's faith.
Some skepticism is necessary --- the Biblical story of Adam and Eve, whether you believe in Abrahamic religions or not, is (at least in part) a demonstration of the consequences.

Namely, that Adam and Eve were incapable of skepticism, since they couldn't discern truth-values, or whether something was right/good or wrong/evil. And, as a result, they were readily susceptible to the temptation.

There are some that say, "You can't judge god." But why not? If a man claims to be god in the flesh, "You can't judge god" forbids me from excluding that claim. If a Booming Voice calls out "I am god, follow me" in (pick yer favourite language,) "You can't judge god" means that I must obey, without question.

Be it god, or a demon that speaks? How can I know, unless I have my own ability to discern either? How can I know, unless I *judge god?*

I protest, therefore, that faith REQUIRES a measure of internal skepticism.

(And in that, I see that I agree with many here. 3nodding )
Being a Bible person that I am, I have two nice verses that I think could be a bit helpful in here.

Isaiah 1:18 "Come now, let us reason together," says the LORD

1 Thessalonians 5:21 "Test everything. Hold on to the good."
Theopneustos
Isaiah 1:18 "Come now, let us reason together," says the LORD
1 Thessalonians 5:21 "Test everything. Hold on to the good."

Acts 17:11 (NASB)
"Now the Bereans were of more noble character than the Thessalonians, for they received the message with great eagerness and examined the Scriptures every day to see if what Paul said was true."
AyanamiRei
Faith is belief without solid certainty. Most peaple have reasons tio believe what they believe.


That's not entirely accurate either. There is no "solid certainty" in the logical world either. Just that which is probable.

Rather, faith is better defined as belief without sufficient logical reason.

Which, arguably, is also stupidity.
Gendou
Acts 17:11 (NASB)
"Now the Bereans were of more noble character than the Thessalonians, for they received the message with great eagerness and examined the Scriptures every day to see if what Paul said was true."


I can't believe I forgot that one. Thanks! 3nodding

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