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Anarchy - Would it work?

Yes 0.23943661971831 23.9% [ 17 ]
No 0.61971830985915 62.0% [ 44 ]
Don't Know 0.14084507042254 14.1% [ 10 ]
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I'm a socialist anarchist myself, and i just want a debate on Anarchism, it doesn't matter whether you're a market anarchist, a nihilist or a capitalist, i just wanna talk about anarchy vs. anything, so feel free to join in ^^

Tricky Gekko

mm. what IS anarchy exactly, in your opinion?
Anarchy? The state of being with no leadership. That's it.

Omnipresent Warlord

I'm a big fan on an anarchist parliamentary system.
Omnileech
I'm a big fan on an anarchist parliamentary system.


Can you confirm for me omni dose that mean you don't want so called "Party whips" in the legislation houses.

Omnipresent Warlord

Darkphantom
Omnileech
I'm a big fan on an anarchist parliamentary system.


Can you confirm for me omni dose that mean you don't want so called "Party whips" in the legislation houses.


It's an oxymoron. You can't have a parliamentary system with no leader as parliament elects their leader.
Generally the idea of Anarchy, although i reckon that you can't have a society with no form of organisation, which is why i'm a socialist anarchist, which, as with anything involving the word Anarchism, is very open to interpretation, but for me means a society with an open senate rather than an elected government, which basically means that anybody and everybody can come to senate meetings (but are not forced to) and make their points, and give their ideas to the rest of the senate, and it should be a democratic system as well, so anything new happening, i.e, new laws etc should be voted on by everyone at the senate when it comes up (if you're not at a senate, and something comes up and is voted for, and you don't like it, it's tough.)
you mean Anarcho communism correct?

Anarcho-Socialism is an oxymoron as stated by Omni in its own wording....
SoViEtTaNkT34
you mean Anarcho communism correct?

Anarcho-Socialism is an oxymoron as stated by Omni in its own wording....


How so? communism is pretty much the same as socialism, to my understanding, except that communism has one definite leader, while socialism is more senate-based, so therefore, in communism as it's practice, anarcho-communism is an oxymoron, or at least more so than socialist anarchism (or anarcho-socialism, however you like it).

If you can explain a definite difference between commnism and socialism that makes your statement true, then i'll be happy to accept that what you say is correct.
Nebekim
SoViEtTaNkT34
you mean Anarcho communism correct?

Anarcho-Socialism is an oxymoron as stated by Omni in its own wording....


How so? communism is pretty much the same as socialism, to my understanding, except that communism has one definite leader, while socialism is more senate-based, so therefore, in communism as it's practice, anarcho-communism is an oxymoron, or at least more so than socialist anarchism (or anarcho-socialism, however you like it).

If you can explain a definite difference between commnism and socialism that makes your statement true, then i'll be happy to accept that what you say is correct.


You have your definitons mixed up. "Pure" socialism is a society in which the government controls everything, without an official elected by the people but by a particular party. Communism is a system in which each individual gets their say.
A Throne of Souls
Nebekim
SoViEtTaNkT34
you mean Anarcho communism correct?

Anarcho-Socialism is an oxymoron as stated by Omni in its own wording....


How so? communism is pretty much the same as socialism, to my understanding, except that communism has one definite leader, while socialism is more senate-based, so therefore, in communism as it's practice, anarcho-communism is an oxymoron, or at least more so than socialist anarchism (or anarcho-socialism, however you like it).

If you can explain a definite difference between commnism and socialism that makes your statement true, then i'll be happy to accept that what you say is correct.


You have your definitons mixed up. "Pure" socialism is a society in which the government controls everything, without an official elected by the people but by a particular party. Communism is a system in which each individual gets their say.


I'm pretty sure that that's not "pure" socialism, i mean, if you look at the word, social, from the latin, meaning people (or some such) and from the same root as society and sociology etc, and i think what you're describing is what some might call one form of it, where an elected body makes decisions on behlaf of the people, but in the most truthful way possible, it's "purest" form would be, as described by Marx, an abolition of money, markets, capital, and labor as a commodity, which if anything means it is a more extreme form of communism. I think the elected body version is the one that's most common today, i.e. socialism in france, but i don't think it can be called the purest form, seen as how socialism was developed by marx and his peers along with communism etc.
Nebekim
I'm a socialist anarchist myself, and i just want a debate on Anarchism, it doesn't matter whether you're a market anarchist, a nihilist or a capitalist, i just wanna talk about anarchy vs. anything, so feel free to join in ^^


That doesn't make any sense. You cannot be a socialist anarchist. It is a complete oxymoron.

Do you even know what Anarchy is? And if you are just going to say NO RULES WOWOWOWHOWHWOH please dont. I'm pretty sure you don't even know what a socialist is either.
Anarchy will not work; the animal kingdom is composed of social order. You can not destroy a dynamic trait of the animal kingdom such as social order. Thus, nor will anarchy work.

Communism trys it, but the leader quickly becomes a dictator. Thats social order for you.
[-Deus-Ex-]

Communism trys it, but the leader quickly becomes a dictator. Thats social order for you.
Quiet Big Brother, I've had enough of your thoughtcrimes!

Actually Tank is completely correct Socialism inovlves in it some type of government and leadership. If it didn't....it woudl just be Communism and we woudl have no stages. s**t we could almost be Anarcho-Communists if that weren't true!
Contra mundus
[-Deus-Ex-]

Communism trys it, but the leader quickly becomes a dictator. Thats social order for you.
Quiet Big Brother, I've had enough of your thoughtcrimes!

They're not thoughtcrimes... yet. Till then, I continue on with my mental programming.

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Actually Tank is completely correct Socialism inovlves in it some type of government and leadership. If it didn't....it woudl just be Communism and we woudl have no stages. s**t we could almost be Anarcho-Communists if that weren't true!


Stages? Why use stages anyway? I enjoy the idea of what communism brings; anti-religion, anti-ownership. I also enjoy that thought alongside Big Brother, where only a few will rule the populace, as we'll all be sheep for the master.

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