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Just as there is a stratification amongst any religion be it Christiantiy, Islam, Judaism, there is stratification in the world's "misc." religion Pagan.

Within paganism are hundreds, thousands of subsets. Religions defined as Pagan only by vauge descriptions. I mean not every pagan is Wiccan, in fact some dispise Wiccan.

I myself aren't fond of Wicca much but no hatred (I just think wicca has become an outlet for teen goths who want to appear spooky to their parents).

So I'm curious how the pagans amongst us define themselves. Do you follow an order? A solitary practitioner? How do you perform ceremonies? What are you basic beliefs, etc. You get my drift...


I guess I'll go first. I am a solitary practitioner (To you non-pagans that means someone who worships on his own without a coven). I'd like to imagine myself more faithful than those around me as I set aside time each day to reflect and meditate.

As far as my beliefs go there is no faith I'm aware of that shares my belief of a bi-planer world. I feel the world exists as a Mechanical World and a Spiritual World. They are both contradictory and harmonious, can't live with each other can't be without each other. The Mechanical shapes our physical world, governed by math and science, while the Spiritual shapes the imagination, bending the equation. Without the Spirtual the Mechanical is just the same thing over and over until it stops. Humans do not souls as we are but a cog in a big machine set to perform one task that will shape our world.

As far as my crafts I believe only in Divinatory or Recessive magics. I firmly do not believe in Active magic (casting fireballs, turning people into frogs, putting curses on people, etc.). Instead I read the lines of the Mechanical world to gain insight into fate. My main tool is Tarot, a Scrapini Translation to be precise (Typically I do Celtic Ten card but on special occasions I've delved into different types of spreads). On top of that I know over 50 other divinatory crafts from all around the world. From Geomancy to Tea leaf reading to Pendulums, to Palm Reading (I'm still very rusty on this, only started a month ago), Rune reading, and even Zulu Bone Scrying.

Contrary to most faiths I believe that every man should follow their own faith, in fact I am so bold to say that all faiths are correct, just translated funny. Everyone in reality are worshipping the same thing, it's the human legalities that cause holy wars. But as an observer I just sit back and offer people a reading when they need answers. Am I to say that my faith is correct, not really as it is not so much a faith as a realization. I'm not worshipping a god, rather the entirety of existence itself...

If any of that made sense heh heh... sweatdrop
This probably would go over well in an intro topic to a guild (since there isn't really room for a discussion here). I am always willing to have more people join the PFRC, which you can find a link to in my sig.

That being said, I'm a 35th level Polytheist smile

Or rather, a Hellenic Hard Polythiest.
Nuri
This probably would go over well in an intro topic to a guild (since there isn't really room for a discussion here). I am always willing to have more people join the PFRC, which you can find a link to in my sig.

That being said, I'm a 35th level Polytheist smile

Or rather, a Hellenic Hard Polythiest.

Almost a 26th level Militant Theist Agnostic, looking to possibly respec to a Gardnerian Trad (OP: That's real Wicca, not Llewellyn Press Wicca)

But yeah, I agree with Nuri that this would be better discussed in the PFRC - of course, I have to agree, since she kinda owns the guild.
... There are seriously numbered levels to paganism?

What if you're a solitary? How on earth do you figure out your level?
logophile
... There are seriously numbered levels to paganism?

What if you're a solitary? How on earth do you figure out your level?

In my case, I just used my age (almost 26) and my current belief system.

Dunno how Nuri calculated her level - she's got a lot of bonus XP from good Hellenic RP or something.

I think "Solitary Pagan" is like the Mime class in Final Fantasy: Tactics. You don't advance in it, but you master it once you master all other pagan beliefs. Get cracking.

(In other words, we're just having a little fun.)
logophile
... There are seriously numbered levels to paganism?

What if you're a solitary? How on earth do you figure out your level?


Please don't take me seriously, at least on mine.

However, to certain paths of paganism and ceremonial magic and stuff thats sorta lumped in in the paganism catch-all, there is a degree structure. Hence why Reagun and Kudzu are 1st degree Wiccans, and the Masons have more levels than WoW.

Me, however, just was a dnd player. I have a +2 Athame against ogres.
Im a level 58 Atheist wearing full Darwin's set except for helm and a skeptic/snark spec. LFG for Bible Belt.
Nuri
However, to certain paths of paganism and ceremonial magic and stuff thats sorta lumped in in the paganism catch-all, there is a degree structure. Hence why Reagun and Kudzu are 1st degree Wiccans, and the Masons have more levels than WoW.

*snicker* Well, more levels than Guild Wars, at least. Unless you're counting ceremonial titles as degrees, or the degrees of the Scottish Rite as part of the main branch (I like to think of them as 'job levels').

And to elaborate on your post a bit: Sure, there are degrees in certain paths, but it seemed like the OP is going more for the concept of pagan "Religions" versus pagan "Belief Systems" versus "Self-Identifying As Pagan Because There Is No Religion That Agrees With Your Beliefs". I could be wrong on that.

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Me, however, just was a dnd player. I have a +2 Athame against ogres.

YOU'RE NOT THERE! YOU'RE IN THE BAR, GETTING DRUNK!
Oh thank goodness.

sweatdrop I was going to be rather unsettled by the silliness of it, if that were the case.
logophile
Oh thank goodness.

sweatdrop I was going to be rather unsettled by the silliness of it, if that were the case.


I am often unsettled by the silliness of it all.

Pagans are silly.

Case: But if there are any girls there, I wanna do them!
Nuri
logophile
Oh thank goodness.

sweatdrop I was going to be rather unsettled by the silliness of it, if that were the case.


I am often unsettled by the silliness of it all.

Pagans are silly.

Which is why we bring even more unsettling silliness to the table. Because (insert deity of choice here) knows, the best way to deal with silly pompousness is to be even more silly and pompous. It's a form of reductio ad absurdum, methinks.

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Case: But if there are any girls there, I wanna do them!

Thank you, Nuri, for making my morning (as defined by "Fewer than four hours since I woke up" wink .
I'm cracking up over this now

"I'm 6th level Militant Agnostic! I have a +4 chance to making you question your own faith!"


When I made the thread I said levels not as nummerical but just to discuss our stratification, our "hodgepodge" or faith if you will.


Now I'm laughing too hard to discuss in an intellegent manner
Voll de Galle
I'm cracking up over this now

"I'm 6th level Militant Agnostic! I have a +4 chance to making you question your own faith!"


When I made the thread I said levels not as nummerical but just to discuss our stratification, our "hodgepodge" or faith if you will.


Now I'm laughing too hard to discuss in an intellegent manner

The sound of my laughter does not, in any way, detract from the seriousness of my apology for helping to completely derail the thread, I assure you.
I'm a third generation Atheist elder with ten points of Atheurgy.
I'm a 5th Level Sorceress with a +2 Nerf Bat of De-fluffing.

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