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Labour Party 0.063492063492063 6.3% [ 4 ]
Conservative Party 0.42857142857143 42.9% [ 27 ]
Liberal Democrate Party 0.20634920634921 20.6% [ 13 ]
Green Party 0.015873015873016 1.6% [ 1 ]
Scottish National Party 0.079365079365079 7.9% [ 5 ]
Other 0.20634920634921 20.6% [ 13 ]
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A Place For The Discussionn of British Politics.

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Tory party = Idiots
Labour = Blind Idiots
Green Party = LAWLZ
SNP = irrelevant to a discussion on british politics
Lib Dem = Only reasonable choice.


Besides Menzies Campbell is cool.

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I say; we tried this lark last year. It all got jolly messy though.

I suggest we keep things a shade more specific in the future.

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redem
Lib Dem = Only reasonable choice.

Besides Menzies Campbell is cool.


Bloody laughable. Might be nice were it true, but no. The lib-dems are clearly not yet fit to govern, they've no credible leadership and all the good skills have gone to the two main parties. Too amateur by far, but if they survive this next election with an increase of votes then they may yet prove a party to look out for in coming decades.

As for voting, the tories seem to have a credible edge again, and are the only realistic party with which the Labour messmakers can be deposed.

Best of a bad bunch - Conservatives.

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Invictus_88
redem
Lib Dem = Only reasonable choice.

Besides Menzies Campbell is cool.


Bloody laughable. Might be nice were it true, but no. The lib-dems are clearly not yet fit to govern, they've no credible leadership and all the good skills have gone to the two main parties. Too amateur by far, but if they survive this next election with an increase of votes then they may yet prove a party to look out for in coming decades.

As for voting, the tories seem to have a credible edge again, and are the only realistic party with which the Labour messmakers can be deposed.

Best of a bad bunch - Conservatives.


I dislike the new tory leader. he's just another polished fool.

Besides, I wasn't suggesting the Lib dems could lead a country, they're the oners I would vote for in an election, not the best for the country. I'd say labour would be best to lead, once they get rid of blair.

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redem
Invictus_88
redem
Lib Dem = Only reasonable choice.

Besides Menzies Campbell is cool.


Bloody laughable. Might be nice were it true, but no. The lib-dems are clearly not yet fit to govern, they've no credible leadership and all the good skills have gone to the two main parties. Too amateur by far, but if they survive this next election with an increase of votes then they may yet prove a party to look out for in coming decades.

As for voting, the tories seem to have a credible edge again, and are the only realistic party with which the Labour messmakers can be deposed.

Best of a bad bunch - Conservatives.


I dislike the new tory leader. he's just another polished fool.

Besides, I wasn't suggesting the Lib dems could lead a country, they're the oners I would vote for in an election, not the best for the country. I'd say labour would be best to lead, once they get rid of blair.


I'm not won over yet either, but he's still better than what we have now. By along way. And still better than the dusty, vague, incomprehensible offering from the lib-dems.

I'm of the view that Blair is not the problem. He caused it, certainly. But having amassed so many Blairite yes-men, the party itself has become just a shade too rotten to bear. Old Labour I could stand, but there's not enough of that sort left to have a nonBairite Labour party in the forseeable future.

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They all suck. I will wrest control of the state from the hands of useless elected officials and establish myself as a totalitarian dictator.

You know, eventually. When I get round to it.

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gigacannon
They all suck. I will wrest control of the state from the hands of useless elected officials and establish myself as a totalitarian dictator.

You know, eventually. When I get round to it.
british nationalist party member?

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TheNinjaGoddess
gigacannon
They all suck. I will wrest control of the state from the hands of useless elected officials and establish myself as a totalitarian dictator.

You know, eventually. When I get round to it.
british nationalist party member?

Oh that's gold.
How are things back home in the UK? The news i get here in the states isn't quite up to snuff with the BBC, but i have found that the CBC has offered a good alternative.

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TheNinjaGoddess
gigacannon
They all suck. I will wrest control of the state from the hands of useless elected officials and establish myself as a totalitarian dictator.

You know, eventually. When I get round to it.
british nationalist party member?


... I would doubt it.

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Invictus_88

I'm not won over yet either, but he's still better than what we have now. By along way. And still better than the dusty, vague, incomprehensible offering from the lib-dems.

I'm of the view that Blair is not the problem. He caused it, certainly. But having amassed so many Blairite yes-men, the party itself has become just a shade too rotten to bear. Old Labour I could stand, but there's not enough of that sort left to have a nonBairite Labour party in the forseeable future.


I like menzies. He's far more interesting than the other offerings.

Anyway, blair's changes to the party could be reversed easily enough, most of his cronies are there due to him, not on merit, they'll have to work hard to keep their positions. And I'm not convinced they have what it takes. Labour will move back from the right with him gone.

And... the tories... I mean... look at them. They're an anachronism.

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And Lib Dem... they mainly appeal to students and old people. Fulfilling their promises to those groups, they might neglect the genuinely important part of the country; the workforce. Could they really run a country that makes a lot of money not at the expense of an enjoyable daily life?

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redem
Invictus_88

I'm not won over yet either, but he's still better than what we have now. By along way. And still better than the dusty, vague, incomprehensible offering from the lib-dems.

I'm of the view that Blair is not the problem. He caused it, certainly. But having amassed so many Blairite yes-men, the party itself has become just a shade too rotten to bear. Old Labour I could stand, but there's not enough of that sort left to have a nonBairite Labour party in the forseeable future.


I like menzies. He's far more interesting than the other offerings.

Anyway, blair's changes to the party could be reversed easily enough, most of his cronies are there due to him, not on merit, they'll have to work hard to keep their positions. And I'm not convinced they have what it takes. Labour will move back from the right with him gone.

And... the tories... I mean... look at them. They're an anachronism.


Interesting? You must know him more deeply than most.. lol

Not as easily reversed as you think. You see - my electing only Blairites to ensure that the most capable and well-practiced MPs are Blairite and you keep the Old Labour types green to the business of managing departments. And there's more too, you see, in that the Labour young bloods jostling for promotion and gurus to help them climb the ladder will see that Blair's policy is what gets you along higher and faster.

It's not easy, Cameron is having the same sort of trouble (and yet, I must admit, seems to be doing remarkably well) in bringing the tories into a more electable sphere than the anti-immigration, anti-Europe, anti reform beast that it was before.

However, anachronism? Have you been asleep since about January? That's roughly about the time the tories overtook Labour as a modern party.

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Invictus_88

Interesting? You must know him more deeply than most.. lol


If by most you mean the entire country... then that's a given. I know his name.

Invictus_88
Not as easily reversed as you think. You see - my electing only Blairites to ensure that the most capable and well-practiced MPs are Blairite and you keep the Old Labour types green to the business of managing departments. And there's more too, you see, in that the Labour young bloods jostling for promotion and gurus to help them climb the ladder will see that Blair's policy is what gets you along higher and faster.

Thay have their advantages yeah, but they're still reliant on support from above... I don't see many of them surviving in the long term.


Invictus_88
It's not easy, Cameron is having the same sort of trouble (and yet, I must admit, seems to be doing remarkably well) in bringing the tories into a more electable sphere than the anti-immigration, anti-Europe, anti reform beast that it was before.

However, anachronism? Have you been asleep since about January? That's roughly about the time the tories overtook Labour as a modern party.

Cameron has done what since he was elected? For the most part I've seen him jump on any passing band wagon in the hopes of some positive press. I cannot imagine him as a leder. He seem little more than a pretty face to cover up the unchanged tory party behind him. I cannot imagine them leading a country.

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redem
Invictus_88

Interesting? You must know him more deeply than most.. lol


If by most you mean the entire country... then that's a given. I know his name.

Invictus_88
Not as easily reversed as you think. You see - my electing only Blairites to ensure that the most capable and well-practiced MPs are Blairite and you keep the Old Labour types green to the business of managing departments. And there's more too, you see, in that the Labour young bloods jostling for promotion and gurus to help them climb the ladder will see that Blair's policy is what gets you along higher and faster.

Thay have their advantages yeah, but they're still reliant on support from above... I don't see many of them surviving in the long term.


Invictus_88
It's not easy, Cameron is having the same sort of trouble (and yet, I must admit, seems to be doing remarkably well) in bringing the tories into a more electable sphere than the anti-immigration, anti-Europe, anti reform beast that it was before.

However, anachronism? Have you been asleep since about January? That's roughly about the time the tories overtook Labour as a modern party.

Cameron has done what since he was elected? For the most part I've seen him jump on any passing band wagon in the hopes of some positive press. I cannot imagine him as a leder. He seem little more than a pretty face to cover up the unchanged tory party behind him. I cannot imagine them leading a country.


If as you say Ming Campbell was widely seen as interesting then the lib-dems'd not be so dead in the water as they are now, and he'd not have had to vow to liven up a bit during PMQs.

They'll only not last in the long time if Brown chooses to swing back to Old Labour values, which seems unlikely given the concentration of ministerial experience among the blairites and the pressing need to compete with some pretty competent tory opposite numbers.

Well, you're evidently set in your mind. I'll let the opinion polls speak for me, Cameron has made a very considerable difference.
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