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Which court system do you find more appealing?

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Kuschelfloh
Over here you can't just sue someone. It's usually the state that sues someone for you. normal people can't just sue someone.

Also we don't have the whole jury system. We, have I think, 3 judges, on higher courts more and on small courts like traffic court one who makes the decision. I just can't see how a bunch of people who have absolutely no I idea about laws and such can find someone guilty or not guilty. And many times it does not even have anything to do with who is guilty or not but whose lawyer can do the best show.

So I'd say that I like our system the best. My granddad used to be a judge so I always kinda looked up to judges...

Oh and also what I like here is that people don't have to swear on the bible.

yeah, who needs the constitution anyway......
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Kuschelfloh
Over here you can't just sue someone. It's usually the state that sues someone for you. normal people can't just sue someone.

Also we don't have the whole jury system. We, have I think, 3 judges, on higher courts more and on small courts like traffic court one who makes the decision. I just can't see how a bunch of people who have absolutely no I idea about laws and such can find someone guilty or not guilty. And many times it does not even have anything to do with who is guilty or not but whose lawyer can do the best show.

So I'd say that I like our system the best. My granddad used to be a judge so I always kinda looked up to judges...

Oh and also what I like here is that people don't have to swear on the bible.

yeah, who needs the constitution anyway......

I don't live in the US...

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Kuschelfloh
Over here you can't just sue someone. It's usually the state that sues someone for you. normal people can't just sue someone.

Also we don't have the whole jury system. We, have I think, 3 judges, on higher courts more and on small courts like traffic court one who makes the decision. I just can't see how a bunch of people who have absolutely no I idea about laws and such can find someone guilty or not guilty. And many times it does not even have anything to do with who is guilty or not but whose lawyer can do the best show.

So I'd say that I like our system the best. My granddad used to be a judge so I always kinda looked up to judges...

Oh and also what I like here is that people don't have to swear on the bible.

yeah, who needs the constitution anyway......

WTF mate? ^^ What exactly is the link between what you said and what her post contained? Also, no, the British don't need the Constitution, at least not ours, anyway.
Kuschelfloh
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Kuschelfloh
Over here you can't just sue someone. It's usually the state that sues someone for you. normal people can't just sue someone.

Also we don't have the whole jury system. We, have I think, 3 judges, on higher courts more and on small courts like traffic court one who makes the decision. I just can't see how a bunch of people who have absolutely no I idea about laws and such can find someone guilty or not guilty. And many times it does not even have anything to do with who is guilty or not but whose lawyer can do the best show.

So I'd say that I like our system the best. My granddad used to be a judge so I always kinda looked up to judges...

Oh and also what I like here is that people don't have to swear on the bible.

yeah, who needs the constitution anyway......

I don't live in the US...

i'll just nail this post, and the one after it(this reply refers to the quoted post, and the one after it)
you don't live in the united states, i do.
you are saying your legal system is better, im saying there is a reason our legal system is outlined as it is in our contitution, its to prevent those "three judges" from being biased assholes that shaft the person on trial, or otherwise allow a guilty person to go free.
as for a jury, you don't need any legal understanding to be on a jury
you are there so that you, as a peer of the accused, can decide wether or not they did the crime based on the evidence you have been given, basicly, they are there for the point to be proven to, and they decide what is the truth. jury's don't have an agenda, judges can, and often do.
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Kuschelfloh
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Kuschelfloh
Over here you can't just sue someone. It's usually the state that sues someone for you. normal people can't just sue someone.

Also we don't have the whole jury system. We, have I think, 3 judges, on higher courts more and on small courts like traffic court one who makes the decision. I just can't see how a bunch of people who have absolutely no I idea about laws and such can find someone guilty or not guilty. And many times it does not even have anything to do with who is guilty or not but whose lawyer can do the best show.

So I'd say that I like our system the best. My granddad used to be a judge so I always kinda looked up to judges...

Oh and also what I like here is that people don't have to swear on the bible.

yeah, who needs the constitution anyway......

I don't live in the US...

i'll just nail this post, and the one after it(this reply refers to the quoted post, and the one after it)
you don't live in the united states, i do.
you are saying your legal system is better, im saying there is a reason our legal system is outlined as it is in our contitution, its to prevent those "three judges" from being biased assholes that shaft the person on trial, or otherwise allow a guilty person to go free.
as for a jury, you don't need any legal understanding to be on a jury
you are there so that you, as a peer of the accused, can decide wether or not they did the crime based on the evidence you have been given, basicly, they are there for the point to be proven to, and they decide what is the truth. jury's don't have an agenda, judges can, and often do.


Just to set this straight, I never said ours was better, I said that I like it best. That's different since it's my own opinion and I gave reasons for my opinion.

And the whole point of judges is that they pass unbiased judgement. Don't tell me that a mother of 4 children is gonna be unbiased about a child molestor. All trials have to be fair and judges (at least over here) are trained to put emotions aside most of the time, unless it's a very serious crime and also is setting examples for our society, then they give a small personal comment in the end.
Honostly this problem I doubt could ever be solved. There will always be those people who are far tolazy to go out and earn a real buck. I mean its ridiculous the amount of thought and work people put into finding esy ways to get quick cash. For instance those people sueing Burger King for making them fat and sueing because their coffee is hot and it hurts when it spills on you. Jesus as long as there are lazy bastards in this world it will always be a problem. But I do like that idea of making the loser pick up the court fees I bet that would make people think twice about doing wrong deeds.
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Any judge can rule that the losing party pay all court costs and they frequently do. I think it should be required that people who bring in frivolous suits have to pay if they lose. the problem is that what is frivolous to one person is not to someone else.
While you can bring in a million examples of things that are pretty obviously frivolous, there are probably more that are on the fine line between frivolous and not-frivolous. In some cases, winning or losing makes a real difference to people and it's hard to say how their lives have been impacted by whatever they are suing about.
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Kiashana

I do like the idea of pre-selected juries. However, cases like the Twinkie Defense and the McDonalds Hot Coffee case, that's a civil case, not a criminal case.
The Twinkie Defense was a criminal case. The guy was up for murder.
Just because there are Americans who are willing to go through whatever lengths necessary for money doesn't mean that our justice system is completely screwed over. If there's really anything screwed up with it, it's the judges and/or the juries who oversee the cases. There's a reason that not all cases make it to court - so even the ones that seem pointless must mean something to someone in society, or we'd never hear about them, right?
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We all know the story of the Twinkie defense, right? Well, maybe not; it might be some of that legal apocrypha shared only by lawyers and their long-suffering families. So I'll sum up that the Twinkie defense was used by a man who committed a crime (I don't recall the actual one, but that's immaterial here); he contended that the junk food he ate put him out of whack and he wasn't to be held liable from his actions. And yes, he won.

We live in a litigious society. People sue for custody of dogs, drag people in front of a judge for telling lawyer jokes, and file class-action suits that result in warning labels such as, in the case of a Swedish brand of chainsaw, "Do not attempt to stop blade with hands or genitals." People see the legal system as a way to get free money with no work, and possibly garner some attention from the press. While the American court system prides itself on allowing all people to bring a grievance before the court, I think it goes too far too often these days. So I rather support the notion that we switch to the British system, in which the loser pays all the court costs, for both sides. For damn sure it would decrease the number of frivolous or fraudulent suits, and it would lighten the load of the judicial system considerably. I know there are flaws, but instead of outlining them for you, I want you to throw them at me when you tell me which system you prefer. So, Gaians, let's get it on!



In Britain we don't have that. We just get lazy feckers committing benefit fraud and having craploads of kids in order to make more money of us poor buggers who pay taxes. Pretty much same thing, except you pay no court fees, it can go on for years and it a lot easier.


Oh yeah, and what's a twinkie?
Kuschelfloh
And the whole point of judges is that they pass unbiased judgement. Don't tell me that a mother of 4 children is gonna be unbiased about a child molestor.

No, a mother of three wouldn't be unbiased in that case. But she isn't the one sentencing. It's her job to find out whether or not the accused did it, and it's in her best interest to find the correct circumstance. If he didn't and she voted guilty because the charge was child molestation then she'd be allowing a child molester to go free.

As for the original topic, I'm just lurking. I'm undecided.
I much prefer the British sytem, although I'm probably a bit biased.

Cases such as the mentioned Swedish chainsaw one, and that of a woman who sued a microwave company because they didn't specifically mention that dogs can't be put in microwaves just make a mockery of the whole legal system. I am very pleased that cases such as this never make it to court.

The British system also has other things going for it. Although we have a bit of a flimsy record on human rights in some cases, there are other checks on our system which will hopefully prevent much of this in the future. Even if British law fails you, you can go to the European Court of Human Rights and get your case reheard.

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